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Everyone involved with health care, first responders, essential transportation personnel, and others risking their lives because they are required to (including meat packers): A+ and a standing ovation. Summa Cum Laude!

Congress: B. They argued too much and inserted pork that slowed things down, but they understood that helping employers who would keep paying employees who are staying home is MUCH better than one time $1,200 checks. Democrats and Republicans worked it out together. Terrific! That’s what they should be doing all the time, right? My sons are sitting at home receiving paychecks, and when things reopen, they will return to jobs they have held for years instead of having to start over. Great move Congress! Great move, businesses. (And if you think it is wrong to support businesses, wait three or four months and watch what happens when the next quarter’s earnings come in.)

CDC, FDA, and scientists working on this around the world: A. Thank you! Some missteps, but that is to be expected under pressure.

State and city governments: A to D. It varies. Open or closed, early or later, many state governments have done the right thing for their states when the federal government couldn’t be expected to understand their local circumstances.

White House: D. Dismantling and under-supporting pandemic preparedness offices and failure to push for scientific preparedness and supply preparedness was a horrible mistake, even though it would have been difficult to foresee the gigantic need for ICUs, masks, gloves, etc. Hiding the seriousness of the situation from the public was a mistake that cost thousands of lives, probably. Putting a hopeful face on things was helpful: FDR did the same thing during the Depression and WWII. Not trusting the scientists and the doctors and casting doubt on them and offering treatments that didn’t work was a horrible mistake. Using press conferences for endless self-congratulation or name-calling was embarrassing to the entire country, or should have been. However, it is not too late to raise this grade. Let’s give the White House an Incomplete, maybe.
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"Ventilator shortage during coronavirus crisis forcing doctors to decide who lives or dies"
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Headline grabber. There was & is no shortage in the USA.
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Federal Government F; they haven't managed anything about it but have punted it to the individual states to manage.
Each state is suppose to govern itself. It is how the system works. This is why we elect Governors. Thank God for Desantis!
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Gov A+++

New York...What else would have you expected
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I think this is a two part question. I would give the Federal Government an "A" on their management related of the health issues. They seem to be well informed, working hard, and doing everything possible to manage the disease. Better than any other country.

But, I would them a "D" on the financial issues. I think they are wasting a lot of taxpayer money by, giving money to people who don't need it, paying people to not work, and spending way too much money overall. They are spending trillions of dollars, and many companies will still go out of business because the money has not been properly directed to the people and companies who need it to survive. FYI, $3 trillion dollars is more than $9,000 for every person in the country, and they still plan to spend more.
Better than any other country? That is so funny.
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:26 AM
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You should be asking how will everyone, every politician, every citizen be handling this situation going forward! Will we stop buying Chinese junk, will we stop buying junk in general, will we bring essential manufacturing home, will we restore citizens rights, will we finally realize what is really important in our Ives, will we address the debt we have created for our children. There are a lot of questions going forward, let’s look back only to help us how to better go forward.
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... I'll give the response a C-, basically because we implemented nothing learned from the drill just held in October 2019, sponsored by Johns Hopkins, the World Economic Forum and the Gates Foundation. And because the White House AND Fauci were downplaying the severity as the crisis was unfolding before our eyes in China, Iran and Italy. Granted, they rose to the occasion but a bit too late. And to this day, it's still not easy to get tested.
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I would give a grade of incomplete. No one anticipated this nightmare, and everyone is in a "learn as we go" situation. It is simply wrong to start playing the blame game while things are still working out and we are learning on the fly. Let's see how this whole thing eventually plays out, and then we can start to give out grads, if that is even really necessary?
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Everyone involved with health care, first responders, essential transportation personnel, and others risking their lives because they are required to (including meat packers): A+ and a standing ovation. Summa Cum Laude!

Congress: B. They argued too much and inserted pork that slowed things down, but they understood that helping employers who would keep paying employees who are staying home is MUCH better than one time $1,200 checks. Democrats and Republicans worked it out together. Terrific! That’s what they should be doing all the time, right? My sons are sitting at home receiving paychecks, and when things reopen, they will return to jobs they have held for years instead of having to start over. Great move Congress! Great move, businesses. (And if you think it is wrong to support businesses, wait three or four months and watch what happens when the next quarter’s earnings come in.)

CDC, FDA, and scientists working on this around the world: A. Thank you! Some missteps, but that is to be expected under pressure.

State and city governments: A to D. It varies. Open or closed, early or later, many state governments have done the right thing for their states when the federal government couldn’t be expected to understand their local circumstances.

White House: D. Dismantling and under-supporting pandemic preparedness offices and failure to push for scientific preparedness and supply preparedness was a horrible mistake, even though it would have been difficult to foresee the gigantic need for ICUs, masks, gloves, etc. Hiding the seriousness of the situation from the public was a mistake that cost thousands of lives, probably. Putting a hopeful face on things was helpful: FDR did the same thing during the Depression and WWII. Not trusting the scientists and the doctors and casting doubt on them and offering treatments that didn’t work was a horrible mistake. Using press conferences for endless self-congratulation or name-calling was embarrassing to the entire country, or should have been. However, it is not too late to raise this grade. Let’s give the White House an Incomplete, maybe.
I had a friend who lay dying of coronavirus in a nursing home while around the same time the public was told that coronavirus was a political hoax or nothing more than a few cases of common flu that would self-resolve in a few weeks.

My friend’s death was one of the earliest nursing home coronavirus deaths, well before such deaths were even included in the daily counts. Could she—and without doubt others—still be alive had the warnings been taken more seriously?

No one will ever know. And I feel too involved to give an impartial response to rhe OP’s questions. I’m not in total agreement, but the three posts above come the closest to how I would evaluate—if I could be objective....
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Federal Gov't A


New York F
Exactly the opposite. New York managed by the data and science the Federal Gov by hunches and feelings from the top.

I only believe what the doctors say and turn off the politicians they are only interested in getting re-elected and manage by the polls. They are playing to both sides saying I think it is too early to open up the economy on tv and then tweeting liberate.
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Federal government: "D"

No further explanation needed (or allowed here)...
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Ignoring your "given" comments which have no backup data ... suppositions .... this country failed to protect the citizenry and is attempting to deflect accountability from the leadership. They were told what was coming and ignored it saying “We have it totally under control,” Jan. 22.

Grade = D
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"New York managed by the data" ... sounds reasonable until you realize that the federal government is instead managing by "common sense". Why access science when you can just go with your gut? Oh my .. did I imply something negative about the way this was handled by our leadership. Sorry.
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I give the question and F due to its political underlining and party affiliations.
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