[MorTech]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

I guess you're forgetting about the fallout of nuclear radiation that travels hundreds of miles and falls to earth. This problem also occurs when nuclear reactors break down and release radiation. The recent occurrence in Japan caused radiation to spill over to the coast of California.

Pffttt...These babies are hydrogen fusion. Maybe 8 miles downwind.
The radiation did not even leave Japan. 20kt.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by mortech

pffttt...these babies are hydrogen fusion. Maybe 8 miles downwind.
The radiation did not even leave japan. 20kt.

you need to see a classic movie titled on the beach with gregory peck. The mirved warheads and overkill is called " bouncing the rubble"
there are no winners or survivors in a world aflame

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by mortech

pffttt...these babies are hydrogen fusion. Maybe 8 miles downwind.
The radiation did not even leave japan. 20kt.

btw
nuclear fusion does not yet exist

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

btw
nuclear fusion does not yet exist

You are wrong! That’s exactly what Thermonuclear Weapons are. They use a Nuclear explosive to trigger a nuclear fusion explosion.

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

you need to see a classic movie titled on the beach with gregory peck. The mirved warheads and overkill is called " bouncing the rubble"
there are no winners or survivors in a world aflame

That scenario is only true if the enemy decides to go all in for Mutual Assured Destruction. Then, yes. It will be “bouncing the rubble”.

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon

I guess you're forgetting about the fallout of nuclear radiation that travels hundreds of miles and falls to earth. This problem also occurs when nuclear reactors break down and release radiation. The recent occurrence in Japan caused radiation to spill over to the coast of California.

Fallout will only occur with ground penetrating weapons. Those are only targeted for hardened targets such as ICBM silos and underground command and control targets such as Cheyenne Mountain.
Airburst weapons are the preferred weapon against non-hardened targets. They produce minimal fallout.

[Worldseries27]

Originally Posted by hrdave

you are wrong! That’s exactly what thermonuclear weapons are. They use a nuclear explosive to trigger a nuclear fusion explosion.

no you are wrong. Nuclear fusion has not been developed on earth yet. Nuclear fission is the splitting of a radioactive element u235.
Nuclear fusion is the forcible joining of hydrogen atoms to create unlimited energy.
This is still being developed. There are no fusion bombs, yet.

[mtdjed]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

What are the nearest likely targets to the Villages?

It doesn't really matter what the nearest likely target is. If it starts, there would be many strikes. The exodus from the targets would seek refuge in any safe non target area. And you can be sure that they would be asking if there is any room at the Inn.

No power, no water, no fuel, no food, no phone, no medicines. All we have left is free golf (on Executive courses) using hand pulled carts. Getting a tee time might be difficult due to lack of computer systems and phone. Bring your own drinks and don't plan on a clean toilet and toilet paper. When you get back home, you may find it has new residents.

Have a happy day!

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

no you are wrong. Nuclear fusion has not been developed on earth yet. Nuclear fission is the splitting of a radioactive element u235.
Nuclear fusion is the forcible joining of hydrogen atoms to create unlimited energy.
This is still being developed. There are no fusion bombs, yet.

You’re thinking of a sustained fusion reaction. As in a Fusion Reactor.
Thermonuclear Weapons create a nearly instantaneous fusion reaction resulting in a fusion reactive explosion. Fission reactions are nuclear. Thermonuclear reactions are fusion.
thermonuclear bomb | History, Principle, Diagram, Yield, Effects, & Facts | Britannica.

[biker1]

Ummm, no, you are wrong. Virtually all nuclear weapons today are two-stage fusion devices. The first stage is a uranium-based implosion fission reaction used to generate x-rays to trigger the second stage - the fusion of lithium-deuteride. As part of the second-stage, additional uranium is also fissioned to create additional yield. What has not been created yet is a controllable fusion reaction for the purposes of generating usable energy. This has been an elusive goal that may very well take many additional decades to reach.

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

no you are wrong. Nuclear fusion has not been developed on earth yet. Nuclear fission is the splitting of a radioactive element u235.
Nuclear fusion is the forcible joining of hydrogen atoms to create unlimited energy.
This is still being developed. There are no fusion bombs, yet.

[HRDave]

Originally Posted by biker1

Ummm, no, you are wrong. Virtually all nuclear weapons today are two-stage fusion devices. The first stage is a uranium-based implosion fission reaction used to generate x-rays to trigger the second stage - the fusion of lithium-deuteride. As part of the second-stage, additional uranium is also fissioned to create additional yield. What has not been created yet is a controllable fusion reaction for the purposes of generating usable energy. This has been an elusive goal that may very well take many additional decades to reach.

Well said!😎

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by JeffreyNJ

Post Nuke Greens... I weep for the future!

Did you ever see "Planet of the Apes"? The apes are smarter than the greens.

[MorTech]

Originally Posted by Worldseries27

btw
nuclear fusion does not yet exist

Conventional charge -> Fission (Uranium/Plutonium) -> Fusion (Tritium). The warhead is about the size of a small refrigerator.

Most are probably of the 50kt range since any more is literally overkill.

[MorTech]

Just one nuke going off in a cornfield in Kansas would probably scare half the population to death and the remainders would be rushing to Walmart for toilet paper and triple-stacked paper face diapers.

What is really worrisome is that a nuke is really easy to make.

[biker1]

Tactical nukes might be that low in yield but strategic US nukes on Minutemen and D-5 missiles are much larger. The largest I believe is about 450 kilotons. Our largest warhead is over 1 megaton but is a gravity bomb, IIRC.

Originally Posted by MorTech

Conventional charge -> Fission (Uranium/Plutonium) -> Fusion (Tritium). The warhead is about the size of a small refrigerator.

Most are probably of the 50kt range since any more is literally overkill.