[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Given a choice, I choose Her Majesty. I like Harry, but in my humble assessment, Meghan is milking something entirely unprovable and gaining about 18 million from contracts with Netflix etc. Harry is in between a rock and a hard place.

Nobody I admire would go on National Television and talk about the inlaws unless they were Ax Murderers.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I consider it a non-event relative to my life. I want to just remark that Meghan's husband Harry could have married a lot of others, I am sure. So, he must have seen some good qualities in her -
and he was aware that there would be a backlash against himself eventually. Since I have not taken any time to analyze this deeply, I would take her at face value - it seems she just wants to vocalize HER side of the story - every story has more than one side. What are her options? Write a book that no one reads or go on Oprah and get people to listen. It would seem to me to be VERY hard to get onto Oprah's show without being sincere. Plus Harry served in the Army - I give him Kudos for that. That was a humble thing to do.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

Darn inquiring minds want to know your thoughts especially if they are tintillating.

I'll pass.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Does not matter what your percieved status is in life, you do not denigrate family or country to all and sundry, especially on a cheap chat show for finanaial gain.
No class or honor shown by any of the participants.
Please keep the pair of them in the USA, where they can champion the 'Woke and Me First' society to their hearts content.


'Family and country first, right or wrong!'

PS. As for Kate Middleton being a member of 'British aristocracy,' her father came from a wealthy family of solicitors (lawyers) and her mothers father was a builder, and if that makes them aristocrats, I'm the Duke of Tottenham!

Family and country right or wrong......?......that is like some kind of blind tribalism. Modern man should have moved past that. I WISH it were true that MY family and country WERE right all the time. That is some dream world. That does NOT work for me - I reserve my right to be critical.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Family and country right or wrong......?......that is like some kind of blind tribalism. Modern man should have moved past that. I WISH it were true that MY family and country WERE right all the time. That is some dream world. That does NOT work for me - I reserve my right to be critical.

Whatever any member of my family or country does, I will back them to the hilt.
I don't have to like the reason or situation.
If that is 'tribal' so be it.
To me it is love and loyalty.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Family and country right or wrong......?......that is like some kind of blind tribalism. Modern man should have moved past that. I WISH it were true that MY family and country WERE right all the time. That is some dream world. That does NOT work for me - I reserve my right to be critical.

This is where most people who live in The Villages find they do not agree with this sentiment. I am one of them. We have the largest VFW in the country just outside The Villages. If you have not been to the Eisenhower Center, please go and see. I am a Patriot. Proud to be an American. That is my tribe, my group, my country.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This is where most people who live in The Villages find they do not agree with this sentiment. I am one of them. We have the largest VFW in the country just outside The Villages. If you have not been to the Eisenhower Center, please go and see. I am a Patriot. Proud to be an American. That is my tribe, my group, my country.

I'll be the "medicine man" in that tribe

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Doro22

And... how did they obtain those millions? From the royals. And I was appalled when Meghan & Harry treated her father so shabbily when he did interviews. Jeez! Look at Harry & Meghan whining to another billionaire. So I wonder how much $$$ they made off of this...including Oprah.
Apparently Meghan tries very hard to look white. Ever since she grew up she’s had her hair straightened. You can easily see that on old family photos.

The world would be a better place if we all were bi-racial - we all had olive skin. That would cut down on the animosity. Maybe in 3 or 4 more generations?

[kathyspear]

Originally Posted by Doro22

Then the fake shock when told about the question of the baby’s skin color. Don’t tell me that hundreds of thousands of people didn’t wonder the same thing.

My ex is Mexican. I'm Irish/Slovak, very pale, reddish hair. My kids looked like him except that one was very dark and one had my coloring. People commenting on that all the time and it was never in a racist/ugly way, just "isn't that funny/curious/interesting ... " I was never offended in the least. But it's a different world, in which everyone and everything is deemed racist to the point where that word has become meaningless.

kathy

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

This is where most people who live in The Villages find they do not agree with this sentiment. I am one of them. We have the largest VFW in the country just outside The Villages. If you have not been to the Eisenhower Center, please go and see. I am a Patriot. Proud to be an American. That is my tribe, my group, my country.

That's all true, but a person can be both patriotic and critical at the same time. I believe in borders but at the same time, I try not to be ethnocentric. Blind patriotism vs critical patriotism - that is the issue here.

[HORNET]

Don’t waste your time

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by tvbound

Will the monarchy end, when the Queen eventually passes away?

nope.... doubt it very much, but guessing they may become even less relevant ?

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

Whatever any member of my family or country does, I will back them to the hilt.
I don't have to like the reason or situation.
If that is 'tribal' so be it.
To me it is love and loyalty.

Agree. So many people have lost the definition of loyalty... so many broken families, broken countries as a result.

[dms4rn]

You really believe those cry baby millennials !?!

Originally Posted by Joe V.

Do not forget Harry served two tours in Afghanistan, voluntarily. He indeed put himself at risk. I have great respect for that.

A greater risk is being married to Markel.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I don't have a dog in this fight. I consider it a non-event relative to my life. I want to just remark that Meghan's husband Harry could have married a lot of others, I am sure. So, he must have seen some good qualities in her -
and he was aware that there would be a backlash against himself eventually. Since I have not taken any time to analyze this deeply, I would take her at face value - it seems she just wants to vocalize HER side of the story - every story has more than one side. What are her options? Write a book that no one reads or go on Oprah and get people to listen. It would seem to me to be VERY hard to get onto Oprah's show without being sincere. Plus Harry served in the Army - I give him Kudos for that. That was a humble thing to do.

I take all seven of the NY governor’s accusers at face value too. But I have no dog in that fight.