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Old 08-12-2013, 03:05 PM
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It's about time. I am tied of my tax dollars paying room an board for some kid that smokes grass.

Justice Dept. to drop some mandatory drug sentences
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There are no kids in jail that all they did was smoke grass. They had to be selling drugs, doing some other crime while smoking grass or some other drug. A habitual offender of drug usage. No judge today sends a kid to jail for smoking pot. It does not happen.
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I am giggling at the "kid who smokes pot references." Do you have any idea how many Villager adults smoke pot? Not as many as those who abuse alcohol I imagine but cannabis abuse is not brought to the ER and I saw a boatload of alcohol abuse being treated. I stay away from all of it. Why invite trouble?
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Better update your alarm systems and try to burglarproof your homes and businesses. These convicted criminals are gonna need money to purchase their illegal drugs. Guess how most of them will obtain it?
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There are no kids in jail that all they did was smoke grass. They had to be selling drugs, doing some other crime while smoking grass or some other drug. A habitual offender of drug usage. No judge today sends a kid to jail for smoking pot. It does not happen.
I think the point of the message is clear. Not supposed to be literal. But the point is this country, state, counties, send people to jail for drug issues which is not where they need to be.

Selling and distributing drugs is an issue but maybe some drugs should be legalized.

In any event one thing about prisons is the privatizing of them. https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/disp...ookieSupport=1

Should companies get rich or profit on the back of prison?
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Should companies get rich or profit on the back of prison?
I don't really care who gets rich if it eases the burden on the taxpayers. P.S. I believe in our justice system so I'm sure we'll get into it about that!
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The best reality summary I heard today the proposal now officially condones how many courts have already been operating, hence no big impact at the real level.
While there MAY be some good in the repeal of auto sentencing, the change does little or nothing to fix/eliminate the ever growing problem. The over crowding of jails will as a result ONLY continue.

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Beer is the gateway drug to crack. My drug of choice is Bud Light, but I am completely aware that it is far more dangerous to me and the general public than pot. Alcohol will give you the delusion that you are 10 feet tall and bullet proof ( thanks Travis). Pot makes you want to eat and listen to music. My generation demands their bourbon and bullets, not cookies and silly music. If you legalized pot and took away alcohol, you would not find enough soldiers ready to go around the world killing people that disagree with us.

Exaggeration, yes, but closer to the truth than the path we are on today. I have tried pot when I was younger and did not like it, but am not foolish enough to give a kid a rap sheet while I have booze on my breath. The person with a few to many drinks is far more dangerous than someone high on pot.
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I don't really care who gets rich if it eases the burden on the taxpayers. P.S. I believe in our justice system so I'm sure we'll get into it about that!
So .... Who would pay the private businesses to warehouse the prisoners? Seems to me your tax dollars are going to pay either way. I would rather not have a middle man carving a profit out for themselves. Privatizing in a lot of cases is not the answer.
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So .... Who would pay the private businesses to warehouse the prisoners? Seems to me your tax dollars are going to pay either way. I would rather not have a middle man carving a profit out for themselves. Privatizing in a lot of cases is not the answer.
Except that in most cases private business has proved they can run an operation more efficiently for less money than any government entity. And it's all about controlling the $$$s spent when it comes to tax $$$s.
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Once again this Administration believes it can sway Americans with euphemisms . Holder equates non violent crimes with non-harmful.

Ask yourself do Drug Dealers peddle non-harmful products?

Ask yourself was Bernie Madoff's investment offerings non-harmful?

Ask yourself are the acts of drug induced people creating mayhem on people by burglarizing their homes, drug stores, etc equate to non-harmful acts
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Indeed is the wide availability of drugs harmful or non-harmful?

I don't know about others but my message to Holder is "do you believe I just fell out of a tree"?

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the new rule is a signal to many that it is now ok for a large segment of people to use drugs without legal consequence.

And that solves what problem??

Another populism pill for prospective voters.

The watering down of America continues.

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The voice of sanity. It is about time this country has realized that locking people up does not solve the problem of "hard drug" usage. In addition the amount of money spent prosecuting and housing, and the permanent damage done to young lives over outdated and ridiculous pot laws is just horrendous..thank God there are some states beginning to see the truth as it is, and not as some backward folks believe it to be..And yes, Florida is definitely backward.
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A big step forward for total legalizing soft drugs
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