[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by biker1

Nonsense. I have never flushed or changed injectors and I have never had a car where this was a recommended maintenance procedure. I have never changed any items in the smog control system. I have never changed a catalytic converter. Starter batteries do need to be replaced every 3-5 years. Antifreeze is typically good for about 5-10 years. The antifreeze that is used to control the temperature of an EV battery will also need periodic replacing.

I don't even do the things the manufacturer recommends, except to change the oil, and replace the brakes and tires when they are worn out.

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Hardlyworking

BS. The Keystone XL was never open. That was Phase IV. The other three phases are open and running.

.....and making not a jot of difference to word price or supply.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I don't even do the things the manufacturer recommends, except to change the oil, and replace the brakes and tires when they are worn out.

Pease remind me to NEVER buy a used car that you have owned.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Yes, lets all base our lives on the elites. Good plan for our grandchildren. But, I understand I got mind damn it, screw everyone else.

It seems to me the elites have theirs and a heck of a lot of ours and could care less about their own carbon footprints or our grandchildren. They care only about their opulent privileged lifestyles. The "Let them eat cake!' attitude of a past age today is let the peons take public transportation, turn their heat down and wear sweaters in winter, set A/Cs (if they are lucky enough to have them) at higher temperatures during the summers. Oh...and eat fake meat!

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

Pease remind me to NEVER buy a used car that you have owned.

I thought you only bought EVs? He drives ICE vehicles.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I thought you only bought EVs? He drives ICE vehicles.

Lots of you's and he's. Not sure who you are talking about.

I don't drive an EV our current cars are fine 11 year old Jaguar and 15 year old Lexus). Our next car will be an EV and will have FSD. As I have said every time this thread gets repeated and all the same nonsense arguments about EVs come out.

[Tvflguy]

IMO EVs ARE the future for most modes of transportation. It’s simply inevitable.

But those stating conversion MUST be done NOW are simply fanatical. And as for planet’s pollution it will be Decades until so many Asian and poor countries will convert. And they will pump plenty of bad stuff into OUR air. So our economy will take a serious hit in these years.

I’m all for EVs but in a sane and steady manner. Build the electric infrastructure while the EV tech develops to a higher degree. Maintain fossil fuel production dependent on demands.

As with so many issues I the country folks “in charge” make it a take sides thing. Grrrr

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

IMO EVs ARE the future for most modes of transportation. It’s simply inevitable.

But those stating conversion MUST be done NOW are simply fanatical. And as for planet’s pollution it will be Decades until so many Asian and poor countries will convert. And they will pump plenty of bad stuff into OUR air. So our economy will take a serious hit in these years.

I’m all for EVs but in a sane and steady manner. Build the electric infrastructure while the EV tech develops to a higher degree. Maintain fossil fuel production dependent on demands.

As with so many issues I the country folks “in charge” make it a take sides thing. Grrrr

[Nucky]

Originally Posted by Tvflguy

With all the news re Electric vehicles, how likely are YOU to purchase one? If not, why not?

For me, our 5 year old gas vehicle is perfectly fine for many many years. And at our tax rate cannot use any Tax Credit to lower price. But if our situation changed I would consider.

My wife put a deposit on a Cybertruck the same day two of our sons did. As time went by and the story and timeline kept changing I asked for her money back.

I wouldn't wait in line at Texas Road House for an hour, no chance I'm going to wait years for this truck.

My son kept his money on the Cybertruck and then bought a Plaid last year. When we went to visit this year he offered me the car and I declined. You have to drive it to believe it. A man has to know his limitations.

I would get an electric vehicle at some point. Why not?

There were available charging stations from here to N.J. all over the place.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by biker1

Nonsense. I have never flushed or changed injectors and I have never had a car where this was a recommended maintenance procedure. I have never changed any items in the smog control system. I have never changed a catalytic converter. Starter batteries do need to be replaced every 3-5 years. Antifreeze is typically good for about 5-10 years. The antifreeze that is used to control the temperature of an EV battery will also need periodic replacing.

There is an ERG valve in smog control systems that needs to be replaced periodically. And there is a charcoal filter tank, also. Many people trade their car every 2 to 4 years, so it would be the 2nd owner that had BETTER do the maintenance.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

When the oil companies cut back production it does affect the price

Yes, they DID cut back production because of less DEMAND during the Pandemic. That has been over for a while. But, some people think that the oil companies were PURPOSEFULLY slow to bring back production to KEEP gas prices HIGH. We will probably NEVER know the real truth on that one.

[jimjamuser]

Yes, they DID cut back production because of less DEMAND during the Pandemic. That has been over for a while. But, some people think that the oil companies were PURPOSEFULLY slow to bring back production to KEEP gas prices HIGH. We will probably NEVER know the real truth on that one.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by fishon

Shutting down Keystone pipeline was the game changer driving up futures and then prices.

Oil is BIG business and like most ALL BIG businesses, they have ZERO regard for the typical US citizen and their need for clean air, water, and environment. That is where government becomes the referee between the opposing factions (just like teams and sports)

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Kenswing

Do cars even idle anymore? The last couple of cars we rented while traveling shut off when you came to a stop, kinda like a golf cart.

Good question.......I would like to know what % of vehicles have that feature. And all hybrids would do that for the 1st xxxxx number of miles.

[Nucky]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

Exactly what happened last January between Fredericksburg and Richmond when a big winter storm closed the highway overnight on a very cold night. Hundreds of EV’s drained their batteries trying to stay warm overnight. When the road finally opened it was gridlock, clogged up with dead EV’s everywhere. It took another half day to tow them away.

There is a very high probability that if we do go for an electric vehicle it probably would not go any further than The Keys. I would never get into a situation like those poor people had to endure. If they had a Cybertruck they could have used the Gas Generator that they could be carrying in the truck's bed to give the truck a little juice. lol