[Rainger99]

Most studies show that the vast majority of households have under $10,000 in savings and the average cost of EVs is about $61,000.

Even if people wanted to buy an EV, most people could not afford to buy one.

Does anyone think that the prices will come down drastically in the next 10 years?


Electric Car Prices: The Average Electric Car Cost in 2023

[waterflower]

What some have attached to the rear drive axel is a generator to recharge the batteries while driving. Problem solved.

[Ksfirefighter]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago: ‘biggest scam of modern times’

Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with an EV in a long road trip?

I have always been concerned about recharging. The fast chargers take 15-60 minutes so, if there were two cars ahead of you, it could take 3 hours to charge!

If electric cars don’t use gas, how do the much heavier electric cars pay for road tax to repair the roads?

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago: ‘biggest scam of modern times’

Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with an EV in a long road trip?

I have always been concerned about recharging. The fast chargers take 15-60 minutes so, if there were two cars ahead of you, it could take 3 hours to charge!

I call BS on most of this story. The range of the truck is almost 300 miles. The owner claimed he had to install a charger at home (That makes sense) but then had to install another charger at his work. How far does the guy commute every day? Then he claimed he had to update his fuse box.… For $6000!?! I don't think it cost me $6000 to do the electrical for my whole house. The rest of the issues like him getting into a fender bender have nothing to do with EV's. The guy seem to have no problem making it all the way from Winnipeg Manitoba down to Albertville Minnesota....a distance of 426 miles. Then he lets the vehicle get down to 12 miles of charge. How much sympathy would we let a person have who is driving and lets his vehicle get down to less than 1 gallon of gas in the tank? Again I call BS on most of the story.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

So, if everyone owned an EV, do you think you would still get instant access to a charging station?

Of course! They will build for the need. It will be (actually is now!) like gas stations are. Sometimes you have to wait, but not often.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Of course it's not shared by all, it's not even shared by a majority. It is only shared by those of us who know what they are talking about.

Mark Twain ~ "Better to remain silent & thought a fool than to open one's mouth & remove all doubt."

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by waterflower

What some have attached to the rear drive axel is a generator to recharge the batteries while driving. Problem solved.

Well, probably not "solved", but progress is being made. Regenerative braking, for example, turns the friction and resultant heat caused by engaging the brakes, into electricity (by use of an electric motor functioning as a generator) which is routed to the battery. There are also vehicles w/solar roof panels. Research is also being done into the possible use of overhead wires, wireless inductive charging where the electrical source is actually IN the highway which charges the battery as the car moves over the apparatus, etc. But from what I've read, none of these have really progressed much beyond the experimental stage.

[Wondering]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago: ‘biggest scam of modern times’

Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with an EV in a long road trip?

I have always been concerned about recharging. The fast chargers take 15-60 minutes so, if there were two cars ahead of you, it could take 3 hours to charge!

First problem with your post is that the source is Fox Business. Not a trusted source. Why? Fox Corporate had to pay more than 3/4 of a billion for reporting false information to their viewers. Secondly, didn't the buyer of the truck do some research before he bought the truck, as to cost for every aspect of owning a EV? Obviously, not! Many EV owners are happy with their EV cars/trucks. Typical FOX NOISE reporting!

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by Indy-Guy

Drivers of EVs in Florida are using our roads for free

Drivers of EVs in Florida are subsidizing your gasoline by paying their part of the cost to keep the oil flowing in the Middle East, which has cost us TRILLIONS of dollars not to mention many lives. The gas tax is roundoff error in comparison.

I'd bet that if you actually paid at the pump for ALL the cost of your gasoline (including military and damage to the environment and people's health), it would be more than $10/gallon. If you saw just how much you are really spending on your gas guzzler, you'd be chomping at the bit for an EV.

[Rodneysblue]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

Man forced to ditch $115K Ford EV truck during family road trip to Chicago: ‘biggest scam of modern times’

Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with an EV in a long road trip?

I have always been concerned about recharging. The fast chargers take 15-60 minutes so, if there were two cars ahead of you, it could take 3 hours to charge!

This is why we all need to do our own research.

[JSRusso]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

So, why should I partially subsidize even $0.01 of YOUR ev???

You’re not subsidizing any part of my EV vehicle. It’s no different than any other tax break we all get throughout our lives. When we file a tax return do you forgo any of the write offs or breaks your entitled to legally take due to the tax codes? You can if you like pay more than you have to, knock yourself out. But don’t criticize those that don’t. There are currently incentives that are available should you choose to purchase an EV. It’s not like the government is handing out cash to people who decide to purchase one. If your paying the premium for a new EV vehicle, there are certain vehicles that can qualify for up to $7500 in rebates towards your taxes at years end. Like it or not, the incentives are there in hopes that more EV’s on the road will help to grow investments in research and the infrastructure around the country in the years to come. The incentives are temporary and have already been reduced as of this past April. Nobody is sending you a check of taxpayers money. We all pay our taxes, and we certainly don’t all agree on how those taxes are used, but it’s not as though we all haven’t benefited from them throughout our lives in some way shape or form. Our taxes subsidize everything this country does, least of your concerns should be a tax incentive on EV’s.

[Windguy]

Originally Posted by kp11364

Another thing to remember about an EV is that the current spate of batteries have a life of about 5-6 years. So, in addition for paying extra to get an EV, you also have the privilege of spending $25K (that's right $25,000) to replace your battery every 5-6 years...

I'm going to have to call BS on that statement. You must have gotten that nonsense from your favorite propaganda station years ago. That may have been true back when the first hybrids came out and used lead-acid batteries, but it's not true for Lithium-ion batteries.

Here's the concluding paragraph from a Car and Driver article last year:

The truth is that today's EV batteries will inevitably need replacing in the future. Fortunately, modern EV battery packs should prove problem-free for nearly the first decade of use—possibly even longer. By the time today's EVs will need a replacement battery pack it's likely the manufacturing and material costs will be far less than they are today. We're not saying that replacing your EV's lithium-ion battery pack a decade from now will be cheap, but we wager doing so will be much more affordable than it is today.

How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last? - Car and Driver

[JSRusso]

Originally Posted by Ksfirefighter

If electric cars don’t use gas, how do the much heavier electric cars pay for road tax to repair the roads?

Tolls, registration fees and taxes ?

[retiredguy123]

The problem with Government subsidies for EVs is that it skews the real cost comparison of EVs to gasoline vehicles. If EVs are competitive with gasoline vehicles, then take away the subsidy and let the free market determine which vehicle people will buy.

[airstreamingypsy]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Of course it's not shared by all, it's not even shared by a majority. It is only shared by those of us who know what they are talking about.

Hahahaha, no its shared by those who watch a certain TV channel. It's astounding that scientists are wrong, and college dropouts spouting propaganda are right in your world.