[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Windguy

It takes a long time for a newly planted tree to provide real shade and you likely will never get to enjoy the benefits before you die. I guess we should quit planting trees! ;-)

I don’t plant trees I remove them.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by imalowany

Like all the Trillions we have given the oil companies over the decades to “find oil” ?

Because state and federal government makes more on gallon gas than oil companies producing it. Not me saying this fact checkers are saying it) So why wouldn’t they get break?

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

Assume you are for removing the $20 billion in subsidies the oil industry gets from the government too?
Chairman Press | Chairman's Newsroom | Chairman | U.S. Senate Committee On The Budget.

Yes, I am.

[Keefelane66]

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[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by RUCdaze

If you think your electric bill is high now, just wait! And it will only get worse over time. You'll see - hug a tree.

And you can burn a tree afterward and spew carbon into the air

[Marine1974]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

But, but, but.......what about global warming????? Or is it only true when it doesn't inconvenience one of the believers?

What do you think powers the heavy equipment to mine for lithium, diesel fuel and gasoline, not electric vehicles.
Not to mention the toxic chemicals used in mining for lithium renders the land uninhabitable for hundreds if not thousands of years . If you are using a refrigerator, air conditioning, electric stove /oven , TV , lights in your house or yard on electric , where do you think your electricity comes from . You have a large carbon footprint you’re producing and do you think it’s fair the majority of us don’t want an electric car that you spend more time charging than you do driving . $25,000 to replace a lithium car battery . Can’t put a lithium car battery fire out with water , it has to burn itself out . Great if you park it in your garage when it starts burning. Try collecting insurance to replace your burned down home .

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by Marine1974

What do you think powers the heavy equipment to mine for lithium, diesel fuel and gasoline, not electric vehicles.
Not to mention the toxic chemicals used in mining for lithium renders the land uninhabitable for hundreds if not thousands of years . If you are using a refrigerator, air conditioning, electric stove /oven , TV , lights in your house or yard on electric , where do you think your electricity comes from . You have a large carbon footprint you’re producing and do you think it’s fair the majority of us don’t want an electric car that you spend more time charging than you do driving . $25,000 to replace a lithium car battery . Can’t put a lithium car battery fire out with water , it has to burn itself out . Great if you park it in your garage when it starts burning. Try collecting insurance to replace your burned down home .

AND....The process of extracting lithium consumes significant amounts of water and energy, and lithium mining can pollute the air and water with chemicals and heavy metals. In addition, mining lithium can disrupt wildlife habitats and cause soil erosion, leading to long-term ecological damage...but heck who cares about that

[Blackbird45]

I'm up there in age and I'm sure the majority of the people who post on this site are not too much younger than I am. Many of these people believe the combustion engine will be around forever. Forget it, we might not be around, but ICE will go the way of the Doe Doe bird. If not by an EV by something else. How to explain this, it has absolutely nothing to do with saving the planet. We are in a profit-oriented society. When it comes to all mighty dollar, we are the villains and the saviors of the planet, but it's only as a side effect. Companies will do whatever it takes to make a profit, if a few people die in their pursuit, its written off as the cost of doing business. Right now, there are some problems with EVs, but those will be address because there is gold in those hills.

[Rainger99]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Almost everyone has a petroleum powered vehicle and there are sometimes waits at the pump. EV charging islands will be as common as gas stations

But you fill most gas tanks in about 5 minutes. Big difference between waiting 5-10 minutes and 2-3 hours.

[bcsnave]

Originally Posted by Blackbird45

I'm up there in age and I'm sure the majority of the people who post on this site are not too much younger than I am. Many of these people believe the combustion engine will be around forever. Forget it, we might not be around, but ICE will go the way of the Doe Doe bird. If not by an EV by something else. How to explain this, it has absolutely nothing to do with saving the planet. We are in a profit-oriented society. When it comes to all mighty dollar, we are the villains and the saviors of the planet, but it's only as a side effect. Companies will do whatever it takes to make a profit, if a few people die in their pursuit, its written off as the cost of doing business. Right now, there are some problems with EVs, but those will be address because there is gold in those hills.

I am right up there with you in age...but long before you and I...the Holocene glacial retreat was a geographical phenomenon that involved the global retreat of glaciers (deglaciation) that previously had advanced during the Last Glacial Maximum. Ice sheet retreated some 19,000 years ago and accelerated after ca. 15,000 years ago...and people think we have control over it...think again..carry on

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by Wondering

First problem with your post is that the source is Fox Business. Not a trusted source. Why? Fox Corporate had to pay more than 3/4 of a billion for reporting false information to their viewers. Secondly, didn't the buyer of the truck do some research before he bought the truck, as to cost for every aspect of owning a EV? Obviously, not! Many EV owners are happy with their EV cars/trucks. Typical FOX NOISE reporting!

NBC isn't a "trusted source" either. Remember in 1992 their fiasco with the exploding truck? After wrecking numerous trucks trying to prove how easily the gas tank ruptured and exploded in an accident, they couldn't get it to happen. Had to put an explosive device in the gas tank to get it to blow up.

I don't feel the urge to search the internet for examples, but if you search your memory the other main stream media sources have had their false stories also. Guess we should ignore them too.

[Number 10 GI]

Originally Posted by JSRusso

You’re not subsidizing any part of my EV vehicle. It’s no different than any other tax break we all get throughout our lives. When we file a tax return do you forgo any of the write offs or breaks your entitled to legally take due to the tax codes? You can if you like pay more than you have to, knock yourself out. But don’t criticize those that don’t. There are currently incentives that are available should you choose to purchase an EV. It’s not like the government is handing out cash to people who decide to purchase one. If your paying the premium for a new EV vehicle, there are certain vehicles that can qualify for up to $7500 in rebates towards your taxes at years end. Like it or not, the incentives are there in hopes that more EV’s on the road will help to grow investments in research and the infrastructure around the country in the years to come. The incentives are temporary and have already been reduced as of this past April. Nobody is sending you a check of taxpayers money. We all pay our taxes, and we certainly don’t all agree on how those taxes are used, but it’s not as though we all haven’t benefited from them throughout our lives in some way shape or form. Our taxes subsidize everything this country does, least of your concerns should be a tax incentive on EV’s.

If it is a product/service that would be popular and cost efficient, subsidies aren't necessary.

[Blackbird45]

Originally Posted by bcsnave

I am right up there with you in age...but long before you and I...the Holocene glacial retreat was a geographical phenomenon that involved the global retreat of glaciers (deglaciation) that previously had advanced during the Last Glacial Maximum. Ice sheet retreated some 19,000 years ago and accelerated after ca. 15,000 years ago...and people think we have control over it...think again..carry on

Maybe your right maybe man has to control of the weather, but you can't believe all this crap that we pump into the air we breathe is the one of smartest move we could make. Again, it has a lot to do with profit.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by imalowany

Like all the Trillions we have given the oil companies over the decades to “find oil” ?

Apples and oranges. Finding oil is necessary for all the engines and appliances that run on oil and it's derivatives. Subsidizing YOUR EV because you think you are saving the planet is ridiculous. Send me a refund.

[dougawhite]

Originally Posted by waterflower

What some have attached to the rear drive axel is a generator to recharge the batteries while driving. Problem solved.

No such thing as a functioning perpetual motion machine, sorry. Adding a generator powered by the EV car's motion will not return as much power to the batteries as it takes to propel the vehicle, thus you're actually draining the battery faster.