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I don't recall any Villages "Lore" about people drawn here because they had lost their drivers licenses from driving drunk and could then drive golf carts because they required no drivers license. . That seems to be as off the mark as the STD stories. I guess it depends who is spreading rumors and to whom and where you hear or read things. There has been a lot of incorrect information about The Villages in public media, and on Forums.

Most of what sticks in my mind is advertising The Villages as golf cart friendly which would make sense since Golf is very important to a huge majority of people moving here.

I think driving a golf cart to most needed destinations is a huge draw. It is thought to be fun and convenient and different to many people looking for a place to retire.

What percentage of folks who have lost their licenses could there be in the population who can afford to move here?
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I don't recall any Villages "Lore" about people drawn here because they had lost their drivers licenses from driving drunk and could then drive golf carts because they required no drivers license.
I'm not the one who said it...I'm just the messenger.

Around 1:10 on the tape.






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Dylan Galbreath, a local deputy near the Villages who also runs a 24-hour golf cart emergency-service company, tells me, "There are people who have DUIs who can't drive a car but drive a golf cart instead."

Some folks move to the Villages because they've lost their licenses in other cities or states and don't want to give up their freedom of mobility.
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Around 1:10 on the tape.






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These links mention but do not make the point of the "Lore" of people drawn to The Villages so that they can drive golf carts when they are drunk. I think that there are mostly thoughtful and responsible people living here.

Not too many are going to get any younger living here and only the responsible will stop driving in their concern for others. I do know several who have made that decision. I did not drive for over a year when my cataracts obscured my vision but were not "ready" to be removed as per the opthalmologist . She thought I was being over cautious but my cataracts were not clinically "ripe". I still felt I could not see well enough to drive safely at that time.
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These links mention but do not make the point of the "Lore" of people drawn to The Villages so that they can drive golf carts when they are drunk.


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Most of what sticks in my mind is advertising The Villages as golf cart friendly which would make sense since Golf is very important to a huge majority of people moving here.

I think driving a golf cart to most needed destinations is a huge draw. It is thought to be fun and convenient and different to many people looking for a place to retire.
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Most of what sticks in my mind is advertising The Villages as golf cart friendly which would make sense since Golf is very important to a huge majority of people moving here.

I think driving a golf cart to most needed destinations is a huge draw. It is thought to be fun and convenient and different to many people looking for a place to retire.
I do know one person that is legally blind and moved to TV because she could drive a golf cart.
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The pro license/DUI/seat belt checkpoints posts are indicative of how many people are willing to give up their basic right of free movement to the government for some increased sense of safety. When did Americans become so willing to be stopped and challenged by the government on whether they are breaking some law? This sounds like Germany back in the day when everyone had to show their papers. Does it have something to do with getting old and feeling vulnerable? I have never seen a forum that obsesses so much about safety; speeding, rolling through stop signs, golf cart seat belts, grandchildren driving golf carts, golf cart DUI, drinking while driving a golf cart, not using turn signals, 22 mph golf carts, safety inspections... It seems as if the older we get the more preoccupied we become regarding safety. Shouldn't it be other way; we don't have that much time left, we've had a good and long life, we don't have children to raise anymore. Now is the time to hang it all out there and live a little, take a few risks for the thrill. What's so great about outliving all your friends and relatives and dying in an assisted living facility?
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The pro license/DUI/seat belt checkpoints posts are indicative of how many people are willing to give up their basic right of free movement to the government for some increased sense of safety. When did Americans become so willing to be stopped and challenged by the government on whether they are breaking some law? This sounds like Germany back in the day when everyone had to show their papers. Does it have something to do with getting old and feeling vulnerable? I have never seen a forum that obsesses so much about safety; speeding, rolling through stop signs, golf cart seat belts, grandchildren driving golf carts, golf cart DUI, drinking while driving a golf cart, not using turn signals, 22 mph golf carts, safety inspections... It seems as if the older we get the more preoccupied we become regarding safety. Shouldn't it be other way; we don't have that much time left, we've had a good and long life, we don't have children to raise anymore. Now is the time to hang it all out there and live a little, take a few risks for the thrill. What's so great about outliving all your friends and relatives and dying in an assisted living facility?


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...I have never seen a forum that obsesses so much about safety; speeding, rolling through stop signs, golf cart seat belts, grandchildren driving golf carts, golf cart DUI, drinking while driving a golf cart, not using turn signals, 22 mph golf carts, safety inspections...
Heheheh. In what other forums would all of these topics even be brought up?
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I do know one person that is legally blind and moved to TV because she could drive a golf cart.
She could use a golf cart is almost any retirement community. If she is "legally blind", why would she want to come to this gigantic place where she would struggle to find her way around.
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The pro license/DUI/seat belt checkpoints posts are indicative of how many people are willing to give up their basic right of free movement to the government for some increased sense of safety. When did Americans become so willing to be stopped and challenged by the government on whether they are breaking some law? This sounds like Germany back in the day when everyone had to show their papers. Does it have something to do with getting old and feeling vulnerable? I have never seen a forum that obsesses so much about safety; speeding, rolling through stop signs, golf cart seat belts, grandchildren driving golf carts, golf cart DUI, drinking while driving a golf cart, not using turn signals, 22 mph golf carts, safety inspections... It seems as if the older we get the more preoccupied we become regarding safety. Shouldn't it be other way; we don't have that much time left, we've had a good and long life, we don't have children to raise anymore. Now is the time to hang it all out there and live a little, take a few risks for the thrill. What's so great about outliving all your friends and relatives and dying in an assisted living facility?
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The pro license/DUI/seat belt checkpoints posts are indicative of how many people are willing to give up their basic right of free movement to the government for some increased sense of safety. When did Americans become so willing to be stopped and challenged by the government on whether they are breaking some law? This sounds like Germany back in the day when everyone had to show their papers. Does it have something to do with getting old and feeling vulnerable? I have never seen a forum that obsesses so much about safety; speeding, rolling through stop signs, golf cart seat belts, grandchildren driving golf carts, golf cart DUI, drinking while driving a golf cart, not using turn signals, 22 mph golf carts, safety inspections... It seems as if the older we get the more preoccupied we become regarding safety. Shouldn't it be other way; we don't have that much time left, we've had a good and long life, we don't have children to raise anymore. Now is the time to hang it all out there and live a little, take a few risks for the thrill. What's so great about outliving all your friends and relatives and dying in an assisted living facility?

Nobody totally free. We have laws. " Sounds like Germany" kinda over the top don't ya think!
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You can make an investigatory traffic stop with reasonable suspicion. You do not need probable cause or proof beyond a reasonable doubt. However, you need more than mere suspicion. As is the case of laws their are always exceptions. The officer should be able to articulate his reasonable suspicion to a judge. Of course judges may have their own standards and beliefs of what reasonable suspicion is. Hence Appelant courts,lol. Clear as mud.
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Go back and read post #10, assuming you are referring to the original post about blockades to check for valid licenses.


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You can make an investigatory traffic stop with reasonable suspicion. You do not need probable cause or proof beyond a reasonable doubt. However, you need more than mere suspicion. As is the case of laws their are always exceptions. The officer should be able to articulate his reasonable suspicion to a judge. Of course judges may have their own standards and beliefs of what reasonable suspicion is. Hence Appelant courts,lol. Clear as mud.
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The pro license/DUI/seat belt checkpoints posts are indicative of how many people are willing to give up their basic right of free movement to the government for some increased sense of safety. When did Americans become so willing to be stopped and challenged by the government on whether they are breaking some law? This sounds like Germany back in the day when everyone had to show their papers. Does it have something to do with getting old and feeling vulnerable? I have never seen a forum that obsesses so much about safety; speeding, rolling through stop signs, golf cart seat belts, grandchildren driving golf carts, golf cart DUI, drinking while driving a golf cart, not using turn signals, 22 mph golf carts, safety inspections... It seems as if the older we get the more preoccupied we become regarding safety. Shouldn't it be other way; we don't have that much time left, we've had a good and long life, we don't have children to raise anymore. Now is the time to hang it all out there and live a little, take a few risks for the thrill. What's so great about outliving all your friends and relatives and dying in an assisted living facility?
I don't care if I die from a "risk" that I took. I just don't want to die from a "risk" that SOMEONE ELSE took
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