[VT2TV]

We all need to realize that this country is slowly running out of resources, especially when it comes to any kind of public assistance programs-we are stretched very thin. Healthcare is becoming stretched very thin. I could go on. While I have no doubt that every single person on here would love to help, including me, everything has a limit. An example: If you have 1 meal a day , and 20 people to feed, what would you do? Feed 1 or 2 people who will probably be at least able to survive for a while, or try to share it between the 20 people, and no one would survive. We cannot afford to feed, clothe, educate, and care for the millions of children who live in the same situation the immigrants live in. I agree with whoever said that you could find children living in filth, very little food and clothes, fearing every day of their lives because of guns and drugs and killers living in their neighborhoods or even buildings. Current American children/ citizens living in EQUALLY horrific situations as those that these children came from. This has been going on for years and years in this United States. We have not been able to help these kids. If we cannot fix the horrific situations that are currently here, why would anyone suppose we are accomplishing anything by bringing any more children here. We may be changing their location, but not their problems. We are just bringing their problems here. we are only taking away resources from current American citizens. If these kids stay here, they will either be in the same or worse situations------or, they will be placed on all sorts of public assistance, and live much better than millions of current American citizens/children-not to mention better than our military families, many of whom are living below the poverty level now. As much as we all would love to be everything to everybody, and to cure all ills----we can't. We can't feed our own children, we can't pay our own debts, we are a country so divided. We have got to fix ourselves before we try to fix everyone, or we will not be helping anyone.

[Trish Crocker]

Since one solution is to have an immigrant be sponsored how about allowing some of the unfortunate families that want children but for whatever reason cannot have their own be allowed to sponsor a child?

[wendyquat]

For all the bleeding hearts I wonder how benevolent you'll be feeling when your social security checks go into providing for illegals?

You know I've been very curious about one thing in particular and I haven't seen it discussed anywhere. We are told that these "coyotes" charge thousands of dollars to smuggle these poor children into the US! WHERE DOES THAT KIND OF MONEY COME FROM? Wouldn't you think if the parents had that kind of money surely they could manage to migrate to safer havens to take their children to and keep their families together!

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

For all the bleeding hearts I wonder how benevolent you'll be feeling when your social security checks go into providing for illegals?

You know I've been very curious about one thing in particular and I haven't seen it discussed anywhere. We are told that these "coyotes" charge thousands of dollars to smuggle these poor children into the US! WHERE DOES THAT KIND OF MONEY COME FROM? Wouldn't you think if the parents had that kind of money surely they could manage to migrate to safer havens to take their children to and keep their families together!

The money comes from parents and relatives ALREADY HERE, working for cash or for payroll checks with phony social security numbers and green cards they bought. Many parents sneak in to work in the USA, leaving the kids with grandma in Mexico or Guatemala, to work and send the money back there to bring them later.

Meanwhile, the parents working here illegally make sure to have a couple of automatic US citizen anchor babies born in the USA, to cement their rights to stay here together for the anchor babies' birthright to be fully used. And our veterans, active military, and elderly citizens live on peanuts.

[wendyquat]

[quote=sunnyatlast;917208]The money comes from parents and relatives ALREADY HERE, working for cash or for payroll checks with phony social security numbers and green cards they bought. Many parents sneak in to work in the USA, leaving the kids with grandma in Mexico or Guatemala, to work and send the money back there to bring them later.

Meanwhile, the parents working here illegally make sure to have a couple of automatic US citizen anchor babies born in the USA, to cement their rights to stay here together for the anchor babies' birthright to be fully used. And our veterans, active military, and elderly citizens live on peanuts.[/quote

Sad, all the way around!

[senior citizen]

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[buggyone]

What was your source for the "historical" information?

[jbdlfan]

Originally Posted by wendyquat

For all the bleeding hearts I wonder how benevolent you'll be feeling when your social security checks go into providing for illegals?

You know I've been very curious about one thing in particular and I haven't seen it discussed anywhere. We are told that these "coyotes" charge thousands of dollars to smuggle these poor children into the US! WHERE DOES THAT KIND OF MONEY COME FROM? Wouldn't you think if the parents had that kind of money surely they could manage to migrate to safer havens to take their children to and keep their families together!

First of all, yes my heart bleeds.
Next, to answer your inquiry, one of the theories surrounding this influx is that the "coyotes" are accepting partial payments with the "travelers" promising to make it up. The coyotes are "employed" by the drug cartels. Well.....how do you think these children and families are going to repay the drug cartel?
Now, this is just a theory for all I know but it does make sense.

[DaleMN]

Mans inhumanity to man is so evident here. I can't even bring myself to read all the mean spirited posts.

[senior citizen]

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[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by DaleMN

Mans inhumanity to man is so evident here. I can't even bring myself to read all the mean spirited posts.

Such piety.....

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by karostay

Were all immigrants

BS.....I was born here and so were my parents.

[blueash]

Some posts here are filled with compassion others not so much. And of course factual errors. There were no quotas, none, zero zip for the wave of European immigrants in the late 1800's into the early 1920's. We did set quotas limiting Asian immigration beginning in 1875. The first limits on Europeans was enacted in 1921 as per Wikipedia

"In 1921, the Congress passed the Emergency Quota Act, followed by the Immigration Act of 1924. The 1924 Act was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans, especially Jews, Italians, and Slavs, who had begun to enter the country in large numbers beginning in the 1890s. Most of the European refugees fleeing the Nazis and World War II were barred from coming to the United States"

So stop spouting lies to support your "send them back and make them wait just like my grandpappy had to" opinion. You are wrong, both factually and IMO morally. These are children escaping the worst social environments imaginable. If we have enough emergency money to send billions to the middle east we can certainly find the money and the compassion for a few tens of thousands of children.

[Barefoot]

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Originally Posted by Trish Crocker

I don't have an answer or solution, all I know is that I thank God that I don't have to send my child to another country in order to keep them alive. Of course it's not a good situation and as a country we are forced to determine the right thing to do, not only to keep our 'real' citizens happy but to also be humane. I am appalled at the actions of many people, people who profess to be Christians. I have never, ever seen hatred like this. You try living in one of these 'suites'...picture your child there, alone, afraid. Heaven forbid they should be able to play ping pong. Let's punish them. Let's see, what would make you happy...dirt floors, gruel, rocks to play with. Is it the 'flat screen' tvs that bother you? Would it be ok if they had old tube type tvs? Maybe they shouldn't be entertained at all....they don't deserve it...they aren't American. Let them wallow in filth and stare at the ceiling until we can toss them back over the border. Yep, that's what Jesus would do.

Good post.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by buggyone

My question was NOT answered by this post. I asked if it was better to have the women and children stay in a refurbished detention center in rooms or in cells with bars on the doors and windows. The answer was that they should stay in unairconditoned tents in Texas instead of modern facilities. Wow, real compassion in the Christian mode!

Next it was said that armed soldiers be used to turn back immigrants and possibly use military force to go into Mexico to force their government to turn back immigrants. More Christian compassion here!

I stated that probably no reader of this forum would like to stay in a refurbished detention center (that is called a resort suite in a later post) for 23 days. The reply was to fly MINORITY kids from Chicago into Texas to stay at these detention centers. What? A refurbished detention center room is now a "resort suite"? Minority kids from Chicago being transported to Texas to stay in detention centers? What is next?

Actually, your question was in fact answered quite clearly.. .you just didn’t like the content. In the meantime, you have not yet identified in any of your posts that I’ve seen a solution to stop the influx of illegal immigration.

So, to be fair, it’s my turn now. I have some questions for you.

1. I noticed you made two comments about (lack of) Christian compassion. I’m guessing you’re not a Christian yourself but rather more secular in your tastes hence your particular turn of phrase. Am I correct?

2. Why do you think it’s compassionate to put illegals in suites at $140 per day while leaving minority kids in bullet ridden neighborhoods where the governance model and family structure has clearly broken down after 50 plus years of misguided social policy … all done ironically enough in the name of compassion? That seems pretty logical as well as compassionate to me. The kids in Chicago and other urban areas live in hellholes every bit as bad as some of the places the illegal kids come from. What about homeless vets, poor people of other backgrounds etc? Why would charity not start at home?

3. More importantly, what would you actually do to STOP the flow? In other words, after you vent about compassion and let us know how much you care etc, along with some other posters, what are you going to actually do to SOLVE the problem?

4. Alternatively, do you even want to stop the influx of illegal immigrants?

Just be honest in your answers is all I’m asking, and don’t mask your intentions and preferences on this important topic.