[JB in TV]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Here is another for the pile of ebola nonsense. POTUS has declared that yes indeed the soldiers returning from Africa will in fact be subject to a 21 day quarantine when they return; however, civilians will not be because they volunteered to go to Africa whereas the soldier were on a mission. Now I guess this makes sense in his mind, but for the life of me can't understand why someone that was sent on a mission and not directly working with the infected are considered to be more of a threat then the volunteers directly working with the patients. And yes, I heard it first on FOX news.

NBC is reporting this also:

Hagel Approves 21-Day Ebola Quarantine for Troops - NBC News

[sunnyatlast]

I saw Sec. Chuck Hagel say on t.v. yesterday that the reason for quarantining the military people is that it is far safer and easier and efficient to quarantine the military personnel than it is to have to quarantine our medical workers who've been exposed (and thus cannot work to TREAT victims military or otherwise)!

This has been my concern all along: if our best medical personnel and hospitals get infected and overloaded and medical providers cannot/will not work, NOBODY will get treated and isolated, and then all hell breaks loose around the nation and abroad.

I would like to know why people think that Hagel's rationale is faulty when applied to civilians like the nurse putting her individual self before millions of others whom the state is legally bound to protect.

If she and her nurse boyfriend, or the infected doctor's caregivers get the disease and so do their co-workers, how is ANYBODY in the state going to get treated and isolated until they're over it??

The nurse is putting her ego at the level of God. Nobody knows yet if she might still become infected, or whether the hospital workers caring for the dr. in NY will become infected.

One person being bored in her rural Maine home is a tiny price to pay for the safety of a city of millions and all the workers needed to fight the disease!

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by gomoho

Here is another for the pile of ebola nonsense. POTUS has declared that yes indeed the soldiers returning from Africa will in fact be subject to a 21 day quarantine when they return; however, civilians will not be because they volunteered to go to Africa whereas the soldier were on a mission. Now I guess this makes sense in his mind, but for the life of me can't understand why someone that was sent on a mission and not directly working with the infected are considered to be more of a threat then the volunteers directly working with the patients. And yes, I heard it first on FOX news.

gomoho: I just came on and was catching up on what other posters wrote. You are spot on. In fact i believe the military personnel should have had the right to volunteer. After all in real combat when an officer knows its a likely suicide mission he asks for volunteers. the medical people volunteered and they are in the thick of it and better than 250 have been contaminated. These folks for the sake of their families and secondly for the rest of us should gladly accept 21 days quarantine.

As to why the White House won't invoke a travel ban? the worse kept secret for why is because White House is afraid that it would affect mid term elections. Why? For fear of being accused of racial profiling There I said it

[billethkid]

first of all the bored nurse in Maine is nothing more than a media hog getting her 15 minutes of fame. You know one of the self made celebs reinforced by the media (because it fits their agenda). She thinks she is above the rules and common sense. She is doing nothing more than exploiting the situation.

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[2BNTV]

I would tend to think that any responsible medical professional would not object to being quarantined, so they wouldn't spread whatever disease they may have been carrying.

Shame on her!!!

[quirky3]

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[gomoho]

Originally Posted by 2BNTV

I would tend to think that any responsible medical professional would not object to being quarantined, so they wouldn't spread whatever disease they may have been carrying.

Shame on her!!!

I am so on the fence with this one. She is a medical professional and probably knows the disease better than anyone at the CDC or in the administration. So shouldn't she be trusted and respected to do the right thing. I am not on one side or the other like I said - on the fence. Don't think this is black or white. I know the Doctor Spence in NY screwed up but does that mean everyone following should suffer?

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by gomoho

I am so on the fence with this one. She is a medical professional and probably knows the disease better than anyone at the CDC or in the administration. So shouldn't she be trusted and respected to do the right thing. I am not on one side or the other like I said - on the fence. Don't think this is black or white. I know the Doctor Spence in NY screwed up but does that mean everyone following should suffer?

Kaci Hickox told Matt Lauer on the Today Show that she is leaving quarantine tomorrow, and the state of Maine is threatening to take her to court to prevent this. Buckle your seat belts, this could get interesting.


http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebo...hickox-n236416

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast

When a medical or other professional licensed in a state, they are required to obey state health laws! If a licensee disobeys and knowingly and publicly defies state law, their license is usually subject to Disciplinary Action and possible suspension/revocation.

Also, if the professional is licensed and is disciplined/suspended/revoked in one state, they are subject to Disciplinary Action in another state where their license allows them to practice.

Traci Hickox openly disobeying and defying a state health department mandate in Maine, should be walking on thin ice for licensure, if she still holds a current one. But maybe she doesn't need a state nursing license, because she worked for the CDC as an Epidemic Intelligence Service Officer:

"Hickox is an official CDC Epidemic Intelligence Service (EIS) officer who performed work for the CDC in recent months.

Hickox was a Class of 2012 member of CDC’s two-year EIS officer training program, according to the official program for CDC’s 2014 EIS Conference (p. 98), which was held from April 28 to May 1, 2014. Hickox was featured in a photograph in the program.

Hickox was listed as an “EIS officer” for the CDC in program materials for a CDC course she taught in July 2014. She was specifically listed as an active “EIS officer” as recently as July 18, 2014, according to CDC documents.

Hickox was a presenter at the CDC conference this spring, according to the program’s list of presenters (p. 103).

Hickox taught an April 29 session called “Contact Investigation of Health Care Personnel Exposed to Maternal and Neonatal Tuberculosis—Clark County, Nevada, 2013″ at the conference (p. 3)…."

Released Ebola Nurse Worked For CDC | The Daily Caller

Actually, her position is quite amazing to me. She is saying "I've been treating people with Ebola in Africa and when I come home to the US, I don't think I should have to be quarantined cuz I want to go where I want to go etc"

This is not to detract from her good works etc but wouldn't she logically be the *very first* person to be put in quarantine? (make the surroundings comfy .. the tent in Newark didn't work too well)

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by billethkid

first of all the bored nurse in Maine is nothing more than a media hog getting her 15 minutes of fame. You know one of the self made celebs reinforced by the media (because it fits their agenda). She thinks she is above the rules and common sense. She is doing nothing more than exploiting the situation.

Media hog is right.

My bet is that either

a) she'll be a new epidemiology "expert" commentator on one of the most biased networks; or

b) she'll be the next young woman activist with a giant, log-sized chip on her shoulder, chosen to be featured speaker at the convention in 2016, moaning about the plight of American women in need of prophylactic protection from policymakers having common sense.

[billethkid]

she will probably become NBC medical director. Nah probably not. The job is open. NBC's medical director was in Africa recently visiting patients and doing interviews with various care givers. When she came home she checked into a hotel and said she and her staff would do self monitoring. Then they all went out to dinner in NYC.

Funny she hasn't been seen or heard from since. She thought she was above the rules and common sense as well.

Enforcement....that dying discipline here in the USA to accomodate the special interest exploiters.

[TexaninVA]

By the way, what ever happened to Ron Klain, the Ebola Czar? Did he contract the disease or something?? We haven't seen nor heard from the guy since he was appointed.

Dr. Frieden, head of the CDC also seems to have disappeared.

[VT2TV]

Originally Posted by billethkid

You have heard the old saying that something is so far out of reality it must be true because nobody would make this up:

Lawmaker claims plans may be in pipeline to bring non-citizens to US for Ebola treatment | Fox News

As we have seen on other threads on this subject there are many opinions, views or positions. Well this one defies any logic or common sense I don't care what your party or beliefs.

We as a nation have demonstrated in recent weeks those in charge have no idea what they are dealing with or doing. We have yet to clarify what should be done (reality wise not non value adding politics).

If this does not fire up we the people and get them off their and rise up against putting this country in a more risk situation than it already is, then there is no hope. Don't be a zombie on the federal bus going who knows where. Do something about it.

For the defenders no matter what consider the subject not who wrote it or any other diversions. Treat the threat as though it were real.

I say this with extreme sarcasm----NOT directed to anyone on these boards...But as per another discussion and things I have read and seen, a lot of people in this country have no problem with allowing unlimited numbers of illegal immigrants into this country and putting them on all sorts of social programs--even talked to a person on a cruise who worked for the Dept. of Immigration who told us that some of the immigrants were even applying for, and getting, social security!! And Medicare for sure. Apparently some people have no problem with non-citizens voting in this country's elections that can permanently affect our country. So why would anyone have any problems believing or thinking that they would be thinking about bringing non-citizens here for treatment. If things don't change, we won't have to woryy about any terrorists taking away any of our freedoms. We are going to wake up one day and realize it is too late, we have already given our rights and freedoms



Now, having said that, I totally agree with what you have said, BTK.

[Sophie11]

Ebola Czar is a lawyer? Why pick this person for such an important job concerning life or death?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx8XLiwp7OY#t=238