[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by ithos

In Massachusetts, they take "Back the Blue" to a much higher level.

John O'Keefe was a Boston Police Officer.

Curious that the Boston PD had little or no involvement in the trial ... they were conspicuously quiet about the whole situation.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

John O'Keefe was a Boston Police Officer.

Curious that the Boston PD had little or no involvement in the trial ... they were conspicuously quiet about the whole situation.

Probably smart on their part. It is often hard to tell who is telling the truth in domestic violence situations unless there is very strong evidence.

[rameye]

The investigators did a terrible job handling this case. They zeroed in on Read instead of letting evidence lead them to their conclusion. Because of this the family will probably never get justice.

[RoadToad]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Not surprised, Boston one of most corrupt cities in America. Leo brotherhood runs deep corruption and kickbacks. IMO suspect it was brotherhood take out?

And you can add the Arkansas murder Sheriff and the Florida illegal Casino racketeering Sheriff to this list.

So many other bent Leos too.

[Yvetteperry]

This trial (or two, actually) was a travesty. If you are interested in it, watch the testimony or search the name of forner state trooper Michael Proctor and you will get a glimpse of police misconduct. He was fired specifically for his behavior in this case. Probably the shoddiest case of police investigation in history. Thank God the jury in the second trial was able to see through the smoke and mirrors that the Commonwealth presented. Very sad.

[mikreb]

The McAlbert's kept saying O'Keefe was their good friend, but not one of them went to his funeral.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by rameye

The investigators did a terrible job handling this case. They zeroed in on Read instead of letting evidence lead them to their conclusion. Because of this the family will probably never get justice.

The family drank the kool-aid and is convinced that KR is guilty despite all the corruption and overwhelming amount of exculpatory evidence that she is innocent. I don't have any sympathy for the family except for the two kids he adopted.

[Nell57]

I hope the okeefe family doesn’t file a civil case.
More heartache and expense for them….and the outcome will be the same.
A mysterious death and Karen Reade is guilty of DUI. But that won’t win a civil suit.

[JoelJohnson]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

About $4,000,000 was spent by the Commonwealth of MA.

All they proved, was John O'Keefe is dead and Karen Read was drunk, the night he died.

They took a blood sample about 9am the next morning. They can only prove she had a drink about midnight the night before. The blood test they took is not really valid, just an opinion . If he was hit by the car, why didn't have any broken bones, or even a bruise?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by ithos

True in the eyes of the law. But considering the effect on future employment, it is far better to be perceived as innocent than the lower threshold of not guilty. OJ found that out.

Not guilty means you won't hang, no matter what the general public thinks. Innocent is nice, but not guilty is critical. Jmho.

[oneclickplus]

Originally Posted by ithos

One of the most controlversial trials in decades. If she was innocent then there is a fair amount of police corruption in MA. Multiple state police officers were punished. It was so egregious that the FBI was involved.

There were approximately 3000 people outside the courthouse when the verdict was read.
To me the evidence is overwhelming that she is INNOCENT but many believe she was guilty.
Karen Read cleared of murdering her Boston cop boyfriend sparking wild cheering outside court | The Independent

She and John were both drunk. She dropped him off at a house party. Then she went to HIS house waiting for him to call or come home (she was with his kids). She tried to call him several times but no answer. Those at the house party say he never arrived. That is to say he never came to the front door. Snow storm in progress with a lot of snow / ice on the ground. Drunk man slipped and fell. Either he was unconscious or he fell asleep in the snow. Death came as a result. There is no fault here (other than his own). Yes, she was angry with him for not coming home and leaving her with HIS kids. That is not the behavior of someone who is guilty. Tragic accident? Maybe. But, more likely, he is responsible for his own death.

Civil suit to follow. If she is found liable, she can just file for bankruptcy and forget about it. Time for her to liquidate her assets now in anticipation before there is a court order to prevent same.

My take: she is innocent. But the family can't accept the possibility that there is no one to blame (except John). So, they will sue "because they can".

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

She and John were both drunk. She dropped him off at a house party. Then she went to HIS house waiting for him to call or come home (she was with his kids). She tried to call him several times but no answer. Those at the house party say he never arrived. That is to say he never came to the front door. Snow storm in progress with a lot of snow / ice on the ground. Drunk man slipped and fell. Either he was unconscious or he fell asleep in the snow. Death came as a result. There is no fault here (other than his own). Yes, she was angry with him for not coming home and leaving her with HIS kids. That is not the behavior of someone who is guilty. Tragic accident? Maybe. But, more likely, he is responsible for his own death.

Civil suit to follow. If she is found liable, she can just file for bankruptcy and forget about it. Time for her to liquidate her assets now in anticipation before there is a court order to prevent same.

My take: she is innocent. But the family can't accept the possibility that there is no one to blame (except John). So, they will sue "because they can".

Medical examiner outlines findings from John O’Keefe autopsy on the stand in Karen Read murder retrial - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News Medical examiner outlines findings from John O’Keefe autopsy on the stand in Karen Read murder retrial - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News


That does not fit the evidence.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by oneclickplus

She and John were both drunk. She dropped him off at a house party. Then she went to HIS house waiting for him to call or come home (she was with his kids). She tried to call him several times but no answer. Those at the house party say he never arrived. That is to say he never came to the front door. Snow storm in progress with a lot of snow / ice on the ground. Drunk man slipped and fell. Either he was unconscious or he fell asleep in the snow. Death came as a result. There is no fault here (other than his own). Yes, she was angry with him for not coming home and leaving her with HIS kids. That is not the behavior of someone who is guilty. Tragic accident? Maybe. But, more likely, he is responsible for his own death.

Civil suit to follow. If she is found liable, she can just file for bankruptcy and forget about it. Time for her to liquidate her assets now in anticipation before there is a court order to prevent same.

My take: she is innocent. But the family can't accept the possibility that there is no one to blame (except John). So, they will sue "because they can".

I doubt she has any assets at this time. Her payday will be coming with more Netflix and book deals.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Not guilty means you won't hang, no matter what the general public thinks. Innocent is nice, but not guilty is critical. Jmho.

Just like OJ?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by RoadToad

And you can add the Arkansas murder Sheriff and the Florida illegal Casino racketeering Sheriff to this list.

So many other bent Leos too.

Big city or small don’t matter money has power to corrupt, it’s been that way even since money was invented and somebody was in charge. under table kickbacks are crooks honey hole now days, It’s harder to trace.