[ithos]

Two of the jurors have spoken in interviews. They both believe that Karen Read is innocent as well as not guilty.

This is fortunate for Karen Read since the O'Keefe family plans to file a lawsuit against her and the restaurant that served her drinks.

I hope that the FBI will followup and not only find the true murderers but also investigate the corruption in the state and city police starting with sabotage of the sally port videos and the willful negligence to conduct any interviews of people present at the house that night.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Nell57

I hope the okeefe family doesn’t file a civil case.
More heartache and expense for them….and the outcome will be the same.
A mysterious death and Karen Reade is guilty of DUI. But that won’t win a civil suit.

The civil case was filed over a year ago.

A judge granted a delay, as testifying in the Civil case, would have effectively taken away Read's 5th Amendment rights in the Criminal case.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The civil case was filed over a year ago.

A judge granted a delay, as testifying in the Civil case, would have effectively taken away Read's 5th Amendment rights in the Criminal case.

If Karen Read wins the civil trial, then she can sue for some expenses but probably not the lawyer fees. I hope she can find some jurors willing to testify.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by ithos

If Karen Read wins the civil trial, then she can sue for some expenses but probably not the lawyer fees. I hope she can find some jurors willing to testify.

Negotiations will undoubtedly begin on Monday, to settle the wrongful death case.

I think the Plaintiffs have a better than 50/50 chance of winning, their burden is so low. Soon after the contracts are signed for the movie rights and cash is available, the Read team will be trying to buy themselves out of it.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Negotiations will undoubtedly begin on Monday, to settle the wrongful death case.

I think the Plaintiffs have a better than 50/50 chance of winning, their burden is so low. Soon after the contracts are signed for the movie rights and cash is available, the Read team will be trying to buy themselves out of it.

Considering that Canton maybe the most corrupt town in the most corrupt state in the union, it is a possibilty they will win the civil suit.

But based on the jurors remarks and the facts laid out in the trial, Karen Read was proved without a shred of doubt that she was innocent.

Also here is how the Karen Read team found out who murdered him.
—just hours after Karen Read was arraigned—her attorney David Yannetti received an anonymous tip from someone claiming a law-enforcement background. The caller said that Brian Albert, his nephew Colin, and an unnamed federal agent had beaten Officer John O’Keefe to death inside the house and then dragged his body outside to the lawn
nypost.com
That caller turned out to be Steven Scanlon, a local private investigator. Although he later recanted parts of his story, Yannetti noted that “photos of O’Keefe hadn’t been released at the time of the first call. And other details lined up,” lending the tip some credibility
boston.com
Subsequently, Yannetti’s defense team expanded this narrative, naming Brian Albert, Colin Albert, and ATF agent Brian Higgins (not a DEA agent) as possible third-party perpetrators through what’s known as a “third-party culprit” defense

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by ithos

Considering that Canton maybe the most corrupt town in the most corrupt state in the union, it is a possibilty they will win the civil suit.

But based on the jurors remarks and the facts laid out in the trial, Karen Read was proved without a shred of doubt that she was innocent.



Subsequently, Yannetti’s defense team expanded this narrative, naming Brian Albert, Colin Albert, and ATF agent Brian Higgins (not a DEA agent) as possible third-party perpetrators through what’s known as a “third-party culprit” defense
[/I]

The defense strategy in the 2nd Read trial is known as the "Bowden defense".

The 1st trial used a derivation of the "3rd party culprit" defense. The judge in the 2nd case, limited their use of the 3rd party culprit defense, in her retrial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTPZKiyGfgA&t=30s

[ithos]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The defense strategy in the 2nd Read trial is known as the "Bowden defense".

The 1st trial used a derivation of the "3rd party culprit" defense. The judge in the 2nd case, limited their use of the 3rd party culprit defense, in her retrial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTPZKiyGfgA&t=30s

After two trials, I think the lawyers will be able to present an air tight case for Karen Read in the civil case. She had some damn good lawyers https://youtu.be/YuiI37P4dgY
But stupid people do make it on juries so injustice might prevail again.

I believe that if Proctor hadn't foolishly busted the tail light at the sally port and then planted the pieces in the front yard the verdict may have been different. This is because the defense had absolute proof that Karens tail light was illuminated and the red lens not completely smashed well after the alledged time of o'keefes death.

[mike234]

Originally Posted by ithos

One of the most controlversial trials in decades. If she was innocent then there is a fair amount of police corruption in MA. Multiple state police officers were punished. It was so egregious that the FBI was involved.

There were approximately 3000 people outside the courthouse when the verdict was read.
To me the evidence is overwhelming that she is INNOCENT but many believe she was guilty.
Karen Read cleared of murdering her Boston cop boyfriend sparking wild cheering outside court | The Independent

the jury slip options are not guilty, or guilty....or in totally corrupt massachusetts, at all levels including trials, some charges did not have a not guilty option. guilty was the only choice on charge 2 for Read. there was not a not guilty option. how corrupt is that?
as far as innocent? it was not an option for the jurors, so how can it even be considered at all?
total corruption at karen read trial, by the investigating state police, and canton police dept. and glaring corrupt judge cannone, who was a disgrace .....i have stronger description of this corrupt, non-qualified political appointed judge, but everyone knows what i am talking about...

[BMill]

Originally Posted by ithos

One of the most controlversial trials in decades. If she was innocent then there is a fair amount of police corruption in MA. Multiple state police officers were punished. It was so egregious that the FBI was involved.

There were approximately 3000 people outside the courthouse when the verdict was read.
To me the evidence is overwhelming that she is INNOCENT but many believe she was guilty.
Karen Read cleared of murdering her Boston cop boyfriend sparking wild cheering outside court | The Independent

I believe she was beyond drunk but innocent.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by BMill

I believe she was beyond drunk but innocent.

You are probably right. Had that been the only charge though she probably would have been able to successfully contest it since no formal DWI protocols were administered. She should be able to get a "hardship" drivers license within a couple of weeks from what I read. Big question is will she be able to find a great job like she had before.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by ithos

You are probably right. Had that been the only charge though she probably would have been able to successfully contest it since no formal DWI protocols were administered. She should be able to get a "hardship" drivers license within a couple of weeks from what I read. Big question is will she be able to find a great job like she had before.

She doesn't need a real job. She can become one of the TikTok/YouTube "influencers".

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by BMill

I believe she was beyond drunk but innocent.

IMO She was in brotherhood at time, they only give out arrest DWI to citizens not fellow brotherhood members and family.

[mikreb]

Colin Albert did it. McAlberts would not protect Higgins, but they expected him to protect them. They texted Higgins after the incident because Higgins went dark and they thought he was talking. Ally McAbe said in the first trial "Colin wasn't in the house when John was." So John was in the house. They were covering for Colin. Colin had bruised knuckles. Garage had red stains.

[ithos]

Originally Posted by mikreb

Colin Albert did it. McAlberts would not protect Higgins, but they expected him to protect them. They texted Higgins after the incident because Higgins went dark and they thought he was talking. Ally McAbe said in the first trial "Colin wasn't in the house when John was." So John was in the house. They were covering for Colin. Colin had bruised knuckles. Garage had red stains.

And the corrupt judge refused to let the defense team to enter the house to look for evidence. She was so biased that she sustained 172 objections against the defense during the cross-examination of a single witness, Boston Police Officer Brian Albert. Not one was denied.

And on occasion she asked the prosecutor if he had an objection to a defense question.

[JRcorvette]

Originally Posted by ithos

One of the most controlversial trials in decades. If she was innocent then there is a fair amount of police corruption in MA. Multiple state police officers were punished. It was so egregious that the FBI was involved.

There were approximately 3000 people outside the courthouse when the verdict was read.
To me the evidence is overwhelming that she is INNOCENT but many believe she was guilty.
Karen Read cleared of murdering her Boston cop boyfriend sparking wild cheering outside court | The Independent

Jury found her not guilty…. So that’s it.