Lack of info on how other countries are doing after lifting their lockdowns

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Old 04-27-2020, 06:09 AM
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In the 1918 Flu pandemic Snt. Louis quarantined and shut down schools etc. they had a lower death rate than most other parts of the country. After the peak of deaths they lifted the quarantines, within one month the death rate doubled, going even higher than the first peak.
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Thanks for your input, Blueash. I'm on the fence about lifting restrictions anytime soon (or rather "easing" them as the other countries have done, as you correctly point out). I can see the pros and cons of both sides. But I'm thinking it would be prudent to wait for some good data from those countries before we proceed.

I would just like to avoid additional large scale suffering and giving the critics an opportunity to say something like many more people are dying because of poor judgment and incompetence. We should have waited just a few more weeks to see how the other countries turn out first.

Our nation usually does a better job of planning than this, in my opinion.
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Old 04-27-2020, 07:18 AM
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Thanks Bogie. I read all four of them and none discuss the after effect of lifting their restrictions. Strange that they don't and stranger still that we as Americans citizens are not trying to find out.
There hasn't been enough time to see effects yet. Watch for spikes in about two weeks.
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Old 04-27-2020, 08:10 AM
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I have seen multiple web sites that Italy and Spain are both level 4 places and also the countries are closed to international tourists until the end of the year or beyond.
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Old 04-27-2020, 08:14 AM
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Depends what media you follow. I’m seeing plenty of info about other countries and the US is NOT comparing favorably.
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Old 04-27-2020, 08:30 AM
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I have seen multiple web sites that Italy and Spain are both level 4 places and also the countries are closed to international tourists until the end of the year or beyond.
Unfortunately for Florida the powers that be in Tallahassee will be anxious to get the tourists back here ASAP....i.e. the tolerance for spring break beach goers!!!
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Sweden has developed herd immunity.
No lockdown! And the Swedes are doing fine
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This is not true. I will leave it up to those interested in using Google to see who is a reliable poster.
I agree. It's still not known whether one develops an immunity after have the virus. We don't develop immunity after having influenza why do people think this is going to be different?
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Shouldn’t our White House corona virus task force be talking about this?
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Sweden has developed herd immunity.
The CV curves for Sweden and the UK are going up. Not so for Denmark and Norway.
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Old 04-27-2020, 12:55 PM
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Depends what media you follow. I’m seeing plenty of info about other countries and the US is NOT comparing favorably.
"I have seen multiple web sites that Italy and Spain are both level 4 places and also the countries are closed to international tourists until the end of the year or beyond."

Thanks for the input. This is not about "other countries" in the general sense. Yes, there's an abundance of information out there about other countries. The topic is the health effects in countries that have eased restrictions, i.e., the health consequences of relaxing lockdowns.

For instance, according to a Reuters article on 4/21, Iran reopened stores and lower risk businesses on 4/20. Poland reopened stores, beaches and parks on 4/19. Austria reopened stores on 4/14. Reports of their success in continuing to keep the virus at bay (or not) after taking these actions are highly anticipated to those of us who feel their experience can be instructive for our country.
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It is better to worry about your own country than others we are a large and diverse area of the world
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The CV curves for Sweden and the UK are going up. Not so for Denmark and Norway.
Actually we are pretty much at the top of the curve.
But.
It seems probable now that UK will have the most deaths in Europe, per cases and population.
Our experts dithered at the outbreak with which way to go, herd immunity, or lockdown.
By the time lockdown was agreed, the virus was well established.
Hence our very high death rate per number of cases.
Lack of testing nationwide, and lack of protective clothing in nursing homes has not helped.
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It is better to worry about your own country than others we are a large and diverse area of the world
When someone says other countries' experience can be instructive for OUR country, are they not concerned for our own country?
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I have cousins in Brittany and Normandy France. There current stay home order is until May 11th.
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Just saw this headline from CNN about Germany;

Germans face fines of up to $5,000 as wearing a face mask becomes mandatory
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