[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by blueash

As you consider your vote on the liberalization of the control of marijuana proposed for Florida, you may want to consider this pointed reminder of the risks of pot. It doesn't take an overly sharp intellect to grasp the dangers of drugs and this case once again cuts to the quick with its brief but rapier like analysis of the unfortunate death of Barry Wilson.

Ky man dies from pot

Didn't his mother ever tell him, "don't run with scissors"?

[rp001]

Originally Posted by PennBF

I wonder if the ones that make fun of using pot will still feel it is funny when the 16-18 use and later have children with mental problem will still think it is funny. How about 20% who use pot as a entry level drug and end up addicted to Coke, Heroin, Meth, etc. and are in the last throws of drug induced medical problems, (e.g. having sizeures, AID's, etc.etc.) I guarantee you that if the ones who think pot is funny and fun will not think the same if they had to take care of these patients. Pot usage is not funny to the professionals who have to deal with the after effects and watch patients die, or ruin their families, etc. The last I heard cigarettes were not illegal and not an entry level drug. It is not unusual for some to try to compare pot to acholol, or smoking, etc. It is left to them as to why they fight for legal usage. Professionals who deal with drugs addictions have their own theories. None of it is fun or funny and is really tragic and a waste of many lives. Those who say it is not a problem should first visit a Crisis Center or Rehab and meet with the Professionals and gain the background on what they believe is fun?

This train of thought left 20 yrs ago. This poster needs to join the new 21century.

[PennBF]

I understand the suggestion that we join the 21st Century. Let me assure that without getting into personal details there is extraordinary experience behind the note both formal and informal education. It is the uneducated and those that never took the time to professionally understand the impacts and watch the effects of usage. I have never met a person who worked in or watched the activities of a Crisis Center or Rehab. profess to be in favor of making any drug available. How are the current social problems with drugs working for you? Have you visited the streets of Denver or Vancover and witnessed the effects of these drugs on the youth? I bet not. I give up now since it is a well known fact that unless the "user/addict" wants to recover they will not. It is unfortunate some must wait until it hits their family hard or they lose controls and must quit..Since some of the problems are such that the brain continues to demand the drugs until the user hits bottom which can be just an embarrasment for some and some in a Crisis center it is a waste of time until the person wants to quit. It is a statistical fact, well supported that 20% will come from pot users.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

Didn't his mother ever tell him, "don't run with scissors"?

A sharp comment
A pointed retort
Cut to the heart of the matter
Aorta thought of that myself
Stick to the vein of my postings

[Bruiser1]

Originally Posted by blueash

As you consider your vote on the liberalization of the control of marijuana proposed for Florida, you may want to consider this pointed reminder of the risks of pot. It doesn't take an overly sharp intellect to grasp the dangers of drugs and this case once again cuts to the quick with its brief but rapier like analysis of the unfortunate death of Barry Wilson.

Ky man dies from pot

This reminds me of the story of the football player that punctured his eardrum while removing his shoulder pads.

He had a Q-tip in his ear as the tried to remove his jersey and shoulder pad.

Note to self:

1.remove Q-tip

2. remove shoulder pad

[John_W]

I would think some of the biggest opponents of legalization would be the alcohol companies and bars and restaurants. In the 70's and 80's I knew many people who smoked pot, never saw them get into a fight or get thrown out of a bar, club, concert, etc. Actually for the most part, pot will make you mellow, less confrontational. I don't put anything into my lungs anymore, but I don't have a problem if someone else wants to. I rather have a neighbor who smokes a little weed on the weekend than one that drinks a case of beer.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by blueash

A sharp comment
A pointed retort
Cut to the heart of the matter
Aorta thought of that myself
Stick to the vein of my postings

Good one! Especially the aorta part.

[PennBF]

One person would rather have a "drunk" next door than someone that is "Stoned"
Am I the only one that sees the crazy humor in this? It points out all that can be said.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by PennBF

One person would rather have a "drunk" next door than someone that is "Stoned"
Am I the only one that sees the crazy humor in this? It points out all that can be said.

I think they said the opposite?

[buggyone]

[QUOTE=PennBF;918612] "Pot usage is not funny to the professionals who have to deal with the after effects and watch patients die, or ruin their families, etc. The last I heard cigarettes were not illegal and not an entry level drug."

Cigarette smoking and second hand cigarette smoke is certainly dangerous. Cigarette smoking is highly addictive and causes terrible diseases like emphysema and lung cancer.

I doubt if you find a single health professional saying it is funny to watch patients die with those after effects of cigarette smoking.

[PennBF]

Your right Russ. How could I be so stupid. Of course some would rather have someone stoned next door than a drunk. Funny.It doesn't matter how you say it, upside down or backward it is still kind of a strange way of deciding who you want next door.

[rubicon]

The marijuana being produced today substantially more potent with more variations than those 60's baby boomers recollect.

marijuana has 4 times more tar content than cigarettes. a KY man falls on a knife a Denver 20 something jumps to her death stoned from mj

I was on the Board of an organization that dealt with homeless teens Monitoring group session at the rehab center brought me to tears.

I am totally against legalization , however, I might agree if (1)
To use the oil extract from mj for medical use may be fine because in this manner the benefit of the drug is obtained without the high effect.

(2) Also if the medical use is metered for monitoring so that it is strictly enforced.

Colorado, Oregon, etc will rue the day they agreed to legalize mj. Denver is already experiencing a high influx of homeless people. People are using their food stamps to by legal mj A familiar pattern begins to emerge

I am going to vote against the legalization of marijuana in the pill mill capital of the world ( Florida) as we already have more dead beat druggies than we can handle now

I also agree with those posters who point out that comparing marijuana to alcohol or cigarettes is a specious claim

[gomoho]

Originally Posted by PennBF

One person would rather have a "drunk" next door than someone that is "Stoned"
Am I the only one that sees the crazy humor in this? It points out all that can be said.

I believe your misunderstanding is a good argument against the legalization of marijuana. Little "high" are we???

[Bizdoc]

They could make watching "Reefer Madness" required in the schools and at the new resident orientation sessions...

[PennBF]

Has anyone EVER had a person who works in a Crisis Center or Rehab agree to he usage of any drug? Has any addiction center taught classes on the advantages of drug? Has any Rehab told the families who attended "Family Sessions" for their addicted family member told them [family] that it would be OK if the person returning from rehab uses pot? Has any ressponsible Professional counceling addition patients said it would be OK for them to use the drug pot. A couple of caveat's: (a) Usage of pot for serious medical purposes would be considered appropriate, (b) Meth is just another way of replacing one drug with another!