[Wandatime]

My sister had terminal lung cancer. Pot helped her with the almost unbearable pain and boosted her appetite a little. If you have ever watched someone suffer the way I saw her suffer, and you knew pot would help them, it would be inhumane to deny it to them. Here she is with her kids long before cancer entered their lives. Clearly not a doper.

[Sandtrap328]

Originally Posted by Wandatime

My sister had terminal lung cancer. Pot helped her with the almost unbearable pain and boosted her appetite a little. If you have ever watched someone suffer the way I saw her suffer, and you knew pot would help them, it would be inhumane to deny it to them. Here she is with her kids long before cancer entered their lives. Clearly not a doper.

I voted "yes" for people like your sister. Too bad the narrow minds of Florida won out.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328

I voted "yes" for people like your sister. Too bad the narrow minds of Florida won out.

Well said Sandtrap. I voted "yes" also for people like Wandatime's sister and John Morgan's brother. I agree with John Morgan, esquire.

[sunnyatlast]

Originally Posted by Wandatime

My sister had terminal lung cancer. Pot helped her with the almost unbearable pain and boosted her appetite a little. If you have ever watched someone suffer the way I saw her suffer, and you knew pot would help them, it would be inhumane to deny it to them. Here she is with her kids long before cancer entered their lives. Clearly not a doper.

Good testimonial for a person who suffered and needed the relief. Very sorry you have this sad story to recount.

For our learning, how (in what form) did she consume the pot?

[PennBF]

I also witnessed a Niece who had a brain tumor and pot really helped relieve her pain, also her father a Dentist developed a brain tumor about 4-5 years after she died. I have great sympthy for those that truly need it for pain. I have no feeling for those that want to abuse it and/or get Doctors to fake perscriptions so they can bring it to the general public. My thoughts go out to those suffering and I only hope we can find a way to control it's use. We also have to think of the under 21 crowd who when using bring potentially terible problems to the unborn or the one that is subject to addition and it causes them to renew their addictions. In the case of the niece my sister went out at night in Washington, DC and got it on the black market from dealers. It is the junkies and the loose Dr's who are stopping the usage for the sick.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Rags123

Perhaps my old age speaking, but allowing a mind altering drug to be available to people, especially after our lecturing on cigarette smoking is patently unfair to our grandchildren. We applaud the warnings on cigarettes, and dismiss those on this drug. Makes very little sense to me.

Adding to that, as I said earlier , from my reading, there are already drugs to be prescribed to allow the same effects as medical marijuana. So it seems this is just a step to make young people even more dependent on ARTIFICIAL highs and become even more self absorbed.

I find it interesting that marijuana is considered a mind altering drug. Those that have medical conditions that can be helped aren't the younger generation...it is our generation. Cigarettes have carcinogens which are present in the tobacco plant, marijuana doesn't. Comparing the two is apples and oranges but I guess that is what we do when we reach old age and generalizations are easier. I would ask the poster what what he do if the prescribed drugs don't ease the pain and suffering of either himself for a loved one. Do we then let the Dr prescribe codeine or other habit forming drugs to dull the pain and suffering? Do we believe that is ok because it is prescribed by a Dr.even though those drugs are extremely addictive. And, I don't think the younger generation, our kids and grand kids are interested in Medical Marijuana. If they want recreational marijuana I'm sure they know where they can get it in their neighborhood.

[Mikeod]

I believe many who voted against this proposed amendment understand that it can help patients with severe conditions, but have concerns about the propsal. My concern with it was the apparent lack of controls. Where were the regulations over who can prescribe, what training/licensing/certification is required, what conditions qualify and for how long? Do we require trials with "standard" medications before it can be prescribed?

Regulations regarding controlled pharmaceuticals are being tightened more and more. Medical marijuana should be no different. Adequate controls and regulations should be in place prior to approval, not after. It is much harder to put the genie back in the bottle than releasing it.

[manaboutown]

Originally Posted by JoMar

Cigarettes have carcinogens which are present in the tobacco plant, marijuana doesn't.

Actually cannabis smoke contains at least 50 of the carcinogens contained in tobacco smoke. Does smoking cannabis cause cancer? | Cancer Research UK


BTW, I am all for whatever it takes to help alleviate the pain in terminally ill cancer patients, those seeking some relief from glaucoma and people experiencing terrible pain that cannot otherwise be satisfactorily alleviated. The problem with "medical" marijuana use is sleaze bag entrepreneurs find their way around poorly written laws. That is happening right now in several states. Certain doctors grant "patients" medical marijuana prescriptions because they are allegedly experiencing some contrived but unproven "pain". I know a few situations among people of my acquaintance. They are just stoners playing the game to get their weed.

Furthermore there is big money in the medical marijuana business. Guess why those pushing the legislation want it so badly?

[patfla06]

I cannot stand John Morgan.
Living in Tampa I've had his commercials up to my eyeballs.
Unfortunately he has commercials here too!

Most of us would agree that people with illnesses and those
terminally ill should be able to use anything that eases pain.
But Amendment 2 was not just about that and that's why it
was defeated.

We already have had numerous drunken driving wrong-way
accidents on our highways! Do we need people high now too???

[TheVillageChicken]

Based on the large amount of misinformation I have seen in this thread, I think some folks need to read the failed amendment vs buying into what the advocates on both sides had to say on TV.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by JoMar

I find it interesting that marijuana is considered a mind altering drug. Those that have medical conditions that can be helped aren't the younger generation...it is our generation. Cigarettes have carcinogens which are present in the tobacco plant, marijuana doesn't. Comparing the two is apples and oranges but I guess that is what we do when we reach old age and generalizations are easier. I would ask the poster what what he do if the prescribed drugs don't ease the pain and suffering of either himself for a loved one. Do we then let the Dr prescribe codeine or other habit forming drugs to dull the pain and suffering? Do we believe that is ok because it is prescribed by a Dr.even though those drugs are extremely addictive. And, I don't think the younger generation, our kids and grand kids are interested in Medical Marijuana. If they want recreational marijuana I'm sure they know where they can get it in their neighborhood.

First, I really hate to be painted as you painted me..."old age"...and using generalizations to make it easy.

I have been asking through out this thread, and got a reply....I have read that there are drugs that can be prescribed that will do EXACTLY what you advocate.

I also said that those who support this, and some have posted to,that affect on here, are simply going step by step to recreational marijuana. I would prefer to have my loved ones treated by a medical professional with drugs approved by the appropriate body.

Painting those opposed to this as unsympathetic boobs is wrong and very misguided, in addition to arrogant.

I have been very open with my questions...very open about my lack of knowledge, and have done some homework on the subject. Do I doubt that it may alleviate pain, etc in some cases...no. Do I think there are alternatives that will do the same thing...yes (actually using the basic contents of marijuan)

Do I think this movement has alternative motives, other than trying to make folks like me look like fools and unsympathetic people...yes. Gameplay on many of these movements is the same...call them a name or too..a make them feel guilty. I, actually in doing some background reading, found two places where I was not only unsympathetic as you willed me, but racist, because I didn't care about the percentage of blacks locked up for using this drug.

Perhaps we come from such divergent backgrounds we will never agree. I basically would rather rely on a medical professional for remedies, and find that the law enforcment issues are not one of race, but bad behavior.

I AM NOT unsympathetic....just unconvinced and if that makes me what you deemed me to be, then so be it

I will accept you have a problem with us of old age ( I prefer experienced, but you would find fault with that), and as to generalizations, I have asked a few VERY SPECIFIC questions on this thread. Your post to me is the very epitome of generalization.

[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Rags123

First, I really hate to be painted as you painted me..."old age"...and using generalizations to make it easy.

I have been asking through out this thread, and got a reply....I have read that there are drugs that can be prescribed that will do EXACTLY what you advocate.

I also said that those who support this, and some have posted to,that affect on here, are simply going step by step to recreational marijuana. I would prefer to have my loved ones treated by a medical professional with drugs approved by the appropriate body.

Painting those opposed to this as unsympathetic boobs is wrong and very misguided, in addition to arrogant.

I have been very open with my questions...very open about my lack of knowledge, and have done some homework on the subject. Do I doubt that it may alleviate pain, etc in some cases...no. Do I think there are alternatives that will do the same thing...yes (actually using the basic contents of marijuan)

Do I think this movement has alternative motives, other than trying to make folks like me look like fools and unsympathetic people...yes. Gameplay on many of these movements is the same...call them a name or too..a make them feel guilty. I, actually in doing some background reading, found two places where I was not only unsympathetic as you willed me, but racist, because I didn't care about the percentage of blacks locked up for using this drug.

Perhaps we come from such divergent backgrounds we will never agree. I basically would rather rely on a medical professional for remedies, and find that the law enforcment issues are not one of race, but bad behavior.

I AM NOT unsympathetic....just unconvinced and if that makes me what you deemed me to be, then so be it

I will accept you have a problem with us of old age ( I prefer experienced, but you would find fault with that), and as to generalizations, I have asked a few VERY SPECIFIC questions on this thread. Your post to me is the very epitome of generalization.

I will agree to disagree......and I'm 71 so I think I qualify for "old age" in the context. Some of us see things differently and that's ok and we will all work for what we believe.

[rubicon]

Charolette's Web was a cannabinoid oil extract that eliminated the high. Again I say that the use of medical marijuana has to ne metered so that it can be closely controlled.

People equate marijuana with cigarettes or alcohol but forget both are regulated but yet both always find there way to under age people
Cigarettes are bad but marijuana has more cancer causing agents than cigarettes and today's marijuana is has substantially more THC then that of 1970. Studies have indicate that regular use (once a week) can drop IQ by 6 points

[gerryann]

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[shcisamax]

Originally Posted by janmcn;96***2

And now you can the District of Columbia to the list that voted to allow recreational marijuana

Gee maybe that would help with the animus of republicans and democrats LOL Can you imagine watching CNN on a day when they all smoked pot?

Okay, to get serious, there were several good points above. I never read the actual language so perhaps that is really the problem. I voted for it because I pretty much believe if you are in pain, get relief. I also believe if you are terminally ill, you should be able to choose to end that downhill journey when YOU want to and not have to endure unnecessary suffering. I would be happy to have those two pills in my medicine closet.
From what i know, it is technically marijuana but they have extracted the part that makes you high. I do believe it is a miracle for seizures and they are actually working on it in Colorado to make the most potent form for seizure issues. I would much prefer to use marijuana rather than some of the other alternatives that are extremely harsh on your liver, and have other side effects.

As for dissing seniors, he's an idiot. Just my humble opinion.