[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by blueash

Every state which has "legalized" medical pot requires a physician to certify that the patient has a qualifying medical condition. The details are readily available if you care to be fully informed at 20 Legal Medical Marijuana States and DC - Medical Marijuana - ProCon.org

The use of the term "prescription" in your argument is possibly something you heard from others or from favored media sources. You have been misled. Most states don't require a "prescription" as that term has certain legal meanings and Federal law prohibits the prescribing of Schedule 1 drugs. So they cannot be prescribed. However every state requires the patient to have a qualified medical condition and be under the care of a physician to get medical marijuana. The medical marijuana movement came years before occupy wall street and has nothing to do with legalization. I am sorry to hear that you have had to live with people who have spent the last 40 years destroying their minds with pot. Just because a product can be abused does not mean it can not be responsibly used.

I mentioned OWS as an example of the phoniness from groups that decry and protest "GREED" on the part of

Big Corporate,

Big Business,

Big Wall Street,

"Corporate Fat Cats"

Big Pharma......

..but NOT on the part of Big POT, Big Weed, and Big Dispensers or any special-interest groups wanting to cash in on legalized pot that's a multi-billion-dollar Big Business in California alone, as stated in the article I linked.

They want their hands on the MONEY, as evidenced by the defeat of the regulatory legislation in the article I linked above.

It's also the phoniness in calling it a "medical" need when it's simply a want, to get high without all the prosecutions, fines, probations and criminal court records. (I do think it should be de-criminalized....which is not the same as total legalization. I think it's absurd and crippling for twenty-somethings trying to start a career to have criminal court records following them for having been arrested for pot possession/use in college.)

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by mrsanborn

I have no doubt that if marijuana is legalized for medical use, the Villages will change it's tag line to "Florida's Happiest Hometown". Heck, you will be able to get a script for urinary incontinence. Imagine going to the Squares. The saving of tables and chairs just won't matter and no matter who is performing, they will sound great. There will probably never be another negative response to an eating establishment and if you fall out of your golf cart, you will be laughing uncontrollably. I am for legalization and I know that the government already knows this.

Oh you New York Girls. Can't you dance the Polka!

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[Patty55]

Originally Posted by mrsanborn

I have no doubt that if marijuana is legalized for medical use, the Villages will change it's tag line to "Florida's Happiest Hometown". Heck, you will be able to get a script for urinary incontinence. Imagine going to the Squares. The saving of tables and chairs just won't matter and no matter who is performing, they will sound great. There will probably never be another negative response to an eating establishment and if you fall out of your golf cart, you will be laughing uncontrollably. I am for legalization and I know that the government already knows this.

Whoa, think how crowded the buffets will be.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I mentioned OWS as an example of the phoniness from groups that decry and protest "GREED" on the part of

Big Corporate,

Big Business,

Big Wall Street,

"Corporate Fat Cats"

Big Pharma......

..but NOT on the part of Big POT, Big Weed, and Big Dispensers or any special-interest groups wanting to cash in on legalized pot that's a multi-billion-dollar Big Business in California alone, as stated in the article I linked.

They want their hands on the MONEY, as evidenced by the defeat of the regulatory legislation in the article I linked above.

It's also the phoniness in calling it a "medical" need when it's simply a want, to get high without all the prosecutions, fines, probations and criminal court records. (I do think it should be de-criminalized....which is not the same as total legalization. I think it's absurd and crippling for twenty-somethings trying to start a career to have criminal court records following them for having been arrested for pot possession/use in college.)

Another good argument.

[donb9006]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

I mentioned OWS as an example of the phoniness from groups that decry and protest "GREED" on the part of

Big Corporate,

Big Business,

Big Wall Street,

"Corporate Fat Cats"

Big Pharma......

..but NOT on the part of Big POT, Big Weed, and Big Dispensers or any special-interest groups wanting to cash in on legalized pot that's a multi-billion-dollar Big Business in California alone, as stated in the article I linked.

They want their hands on the MONEY, as evidenced by the defeat of the regulatory legislation in the article I linked above.

It's also the phoniness in calling it a "medical" need when it's simply a want, to get high without all the prosecutions, fines, probations and criminal court records. (I do think it should be de-criminalized....which is not the same as total legalization. I think it's absurd and crippling for twenty-somethings trying to start a career to have criminal court records following them for having been arrested for pot possession/use in college.)

Are you kidding me? It may be a billion a year business, but it's HARDLY "big business" here in the US. It's the ultimate example of SMALL business, of entrepreneurship. It's the "little guy" finding his niche.

It's illegal because the alcohol and pharma industry want it illegal. Privatized prisons with occupancy guarantees don't want it legal either. There's a whole lot of money spent on "the drug war", and there's a lot of people getting very rich on it's being illegal.

It's much, much, much less harmful than alcohol. It's also less inebriating than alcohol.

Of course you don't let kids have it. But, unfortunately, it won't be any different than it is now, they'll get it.

Kids that are going to become addicts WILL become addicts...to something. Kids who don't become addicts won't, no matter what is available to them. Not everyone is an alcoholic though alcohol is available and not everyone will be a pot head if it's available.

As for the "occupy movement", it was taken over by the powers that be and corrupted. The big banks, wall street, diverted interest away from themselves. You do know that the Fed is giving the banks almost $90 billion every month buying their bad mortgages and to keep the interest rate on treasuries down? (It's why your CD pays less than 1%.) That's over a trillion dollars every year to the big banks. And that's on top of the free money (interest payments) they get with the fractional reserve system we use. If you knew the truth, how corrupt everything is, you'd be less critical of the occupy movement.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by Golfingnut

Legalize it, give farmers a new money crop, tax it and stop spending $$$$$$$$ on prisons and courts for offenders and even give back a freedom. That should appeal to both the right and the left.

It has been said that you can't get medical marijuana unless your doctor first determines that you have a need for it. So it won't be given to young people. But just think about what you have said about giving farmers a new money crop:

Will these crops be raised under conditions of high security? Farmers have children; will their children have access to the crops? Will their teenagers pick some of it to smoke it themselves and sell some to their friends at school? How about the farmers neighbors? Not to mention criminal activity where criminals steel it to sell to teenagers and others who don't have a medical need.

Now imagine thousands of farmers raising thousands of acres of marijuana. Sounds like a prescription for losing control of the supply.

[Villages PL]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

I see it used in hospital settings for increased appetite response in failure to thrive patients.

I don't have any experience with marijuana use in hospital settings so I have to ask: Does the marijuana come in pill form, or do you wheel them outside for a smoke? And if it does come in a pill, is there a synthetic form of marijuana that can be manufactured without having to grow marijuana plants?

[Golfingnut]

Some think it is a bad drug. There dead wrong.

Some think it is a good drug. There dead wrong.


No drugs are good or bad, but if they help some otherwise hurting people, to simply say no to is production and use is very selfish and takes a simple mind to hold firm to that belief.

[skyguy79]

I wouldn't normally be making this post as I don't really have strong opinions of cannabis, but when it comes to "Medical Marijuana" I do. IMO, if Medical Marijuana does become legal, I hope that it will at least require all recipients of MM to go through the same process I go through in order to receive my pain medication. I described it on another post which I quote:

"Besides having a legit need, I had to sign an agreement called "Informed Consent & Controlled Substance Agreement" which confirms to State Law on pain medication and includes requirements for dedicated CPM (Comprehensive Pain Monitoring) appointments every three months with urine drug testing in association to those appointments."

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by skyguy79

I wouldn't normally be making this post as I don't really have strong opinions of cannabis, but when it comes to "Medical Marijuana" I do. IMO, if Medical Marijuana does become legal, I hope that it will at least require all recipients of MM to go through the same process I go through in order to receive my pain medication. I described it on another post which I quote:

"Besides having a legit need, I had to sign an agreement called "Informed Consent & Controlled Substance Agreement" which confirms to State Law on pain medication and includes requirements for dedicated CPM (Comprehensive Pain Monitoring) appointments every three months with urine drug testing in association to those appointments."

I agree. I just believe that it should not require a big business involvement to decide what is OK for people in need based on their patent rather than what works to relieve suffering. Drug companies do not want this chemical because it is too cheap to produce.

[benj]

I guess I lost my 8 IQ points years ago dang now I'm down to my last 8. Regarding the growing of pot outdoors, not happening. In Denver where I'm from. There was an area of town, like every other town, where there were a bunch of old run down manufacturing buildings, vacant, making it an area of high crime and homelessness. It was a mess. Now they grow indoors for quality reasons. Now most of these bldgs are rented, renovated, well lit and protected with alarms and cameras reinvigorating a whole area of town. Owners have a new source of income, rent, bldgs are improved more taxes are paid and jobs created. Small retail shops that sell the medicine around town were rented for the first time in years with the same results. Plus a huge savings was made in law enforcement costs and prison space and manpower. Now there will be a lot less 18 year olds having felony records to ruin there lives over. Look at the TV benefits, the restaurants will sell more food and Katie Bells will be way more fun. Please do me a favor, rather than just kid around go to the united for care site and sign the petition. Thanks.

[Russ_Boston]

Originally Posted by Villages PL

I don't have any experience with marijuana use in hospital settings so I have to ask: Does the marijuana come in pill form, or do you wheel them outside for a smoke? And if it does come in a pill, is there a synthetic form of marijuana that can be manufactured without having to grow marijuana plants?

Pill - Dronabinol.

Marinol Official FDA information, side effects and uses.

[kagney123]

Is there a 420 Friendly Club in the Villages?

[Golfingnut]

Originally Posted by kagney123

Is there a 420 Friendly Club in the Villages?

I doubt it. More likely you will run Into more narc's than 420's. Most Villers are too old to be that progressive. But, I for one say good luck and god speed.

[Microcodeboy]

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