[wendyquat]

Originally Posted by lovsthosebigdogs

Ugh, only half of my post actually posted. To finish, I was trying to say that he would still be fighting dogs if he hadn't been caught. His remorse is only there so he can continue to pkay. I would be more impressed if he was banned from all pro sports and still decided to work for animal welfare afterwards. Just my pinion. Personally I will never forgive an animal abuser.

I agree! He is only "sorry" because he got caught! He is working for the SPCA only to make an impression to insure his pocketbook! He is despicable!

[Joaniesmom]

Originally Posted by lovsthosebigdogs

Ugh, only half of my post actually posted. To finish, I was trying to say that he would still be fighting dogs if he hadn't been caught. His remorse is only there so he can continue to pkay. I would be more impressed if he was banned from all pro sports and still decided to work for animal welfare afterwards. Just my pinion. Personally I will never forgive an animal abuser.

[redwitch]

He speaks at schools, YMCAs, Boys Clubs, wherever in every town he is in, either before or after a game. He's never been required to go that far, but he does. I don't know what is in his mind or if he is truly sorry for his past acts, but neither do any of us. Only he does.

I've heard Michael Vicks speak. He may be doing it just to look good, but he sounds like he believes what he is saying. More importantly, the kids hearing him speak believe him. He is making a difference.

Yes, he did some heinous things. Who knows why? His culture? His upbringing? Because he is truly a bad man? Regardless, he's not doing them now.

I was taught that everyone deserves a second chance; that people can and do change; that people can learn that what they are doing is wrong and quit doing it and even regret that they did it. My gut feeling is that most of us were taught to forgive (otherwise, our parents would probably have thrown each and every one of us in jail for being the young hooligans we were at one time or another). So, why has this lesson been thrown to the wayside? Why can't so many of you give him and other people a second chance to do the right thing?

[Joaniesmom]

Originally Posted by redwitch

He speaks at schools, YMCAs, Boys Clubs, wherever in every town he is in, either before or after a game. He's never been required to go that far, but he does. I don't know what is in his mind or if he is truly sorry for his past acts, but neither do any of us. Only he does.

I've heard Michael Vicks speak. He may be doing it just to look good, but he sounds like he believes what he is saying. More importantly, the kids hearing him speak believe him. He is making a difference.

Yes, he did some heinous things. Who knows why? His culture? His upbringing? Because he is truly a bad man? Regardless, he's not doing them now.

I was taught that everyone deserves a second chance; that people can and do change; that people can learn that what they are doing is wrong and quit doing it and even regret that they did it. My gut feeling is that most of us were taught to forgive (otherwise, our parents would probably have thrown each and every one of us in jail for being the young hooligans we were at one time or another). So, why has this lesson been thrown to the wayside? Why can't so many of you give him and other people a second chance to do the right thing?

You've made an excellent point. In my mind I entirely agree with you and I truly admire you for bringing it up. As a matter of fact, I'm sure I'll be giving it some more thought.

But, for now, the thought of what that man and his evil cohorts did to those innocent, helpless creatures remains in my heart as an unspeakably awful and cruel act. All the more so because the victims could not even speak for themselves.

Right this moment, while we are talking about giving him a second chance, some of those dogs are still suffering in shelters and will never recover from that abuse. Never be able to live in loving homes and never have a second chance of their own.

I would purchase the sorriest, ugliest, most poorly-made garment if it would provide a moment of peace for those animals rather than support someone like Michael Vicks.

Our own legal system hasn't seen fit to give him a second chance. He isn't allowed to own a dog because he has proven himself unfit.

Michael Vicks doesn't need anything from me and all I want from him is to stay away from animals.

[asianthree]

i don't shop at JCP so i guess i am ok either way

[Tom Hannon]

Originally Posted by ronat1

I But, how can you actually sit there and compare the rape and killing of one's daughter to the dogfighting that Vick was involved with? That's absurd!!!

Perhaps I over said what I was trying to say. But years ago when I was in my early twenties I worked with a convicted rapist who victimize two 14 years old girls in the same town I lived. We clashed a few time which made working conditions uncomfortable for everyone. The boss told me, he paid his time and if I continued to not let him forget it, I should look for another job. I quit and started my own business. Yes, a person can do time and by law he is free of his crime but as a person, there is no law that says I have to forgive him. I won't forgive Vick and as in a previous post about Tiger Woods I am shocked with the standing ovations they received when they began playing their sport again. Jim Morrison said it best "People are strange."

[Patty55]

I have never shopped at JC Penney's and I will NEVER forgive Michael Vick.

[2BNTV]

What Michael Vick did with his dogs was despictable. How can hurt a dog which is just like a baby?

I don't know him or his character to pass judgement on him but he has done his time and should be given a second chance by law.

As a long time sports and Giant fan, I will never root for him or buy anything that supports his lifestyle. That is my right.

[duffysmom]

I don't believe that someone who took pleasure in torturing and maiming innocents, whether they be animals or children can be rehabilitated. It's a fatal flaw. We now understand that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated and need to be locked up. Michael Vick was a full grown adult when he used his millions to fund and participate in torturing animals. He had untold ways in which he could have used his millions but he gravitated to what he enjoys, funded it and participated in it for pleasure. This to me is indication of a sick perverted mind.

[KathieI]

Originally Posted by Patty55

Not comparable, not even close. I don't care if Vick did his time, I find his actions unforgiveable.

I totally agree with those of you who will not forgive Vick. I've said it before on this forum and will say it forever, I loathe that man for what he knowingly did to helpless animals. In Los Angeles, dog fighting is a very common occurance and I have rescued many dogs in such poor condition that it was the MOST inhuman thing I have ever seen. I also have seen what happens to the animals in cockfighting, another thing that I loath. I will never forgive or forget and my belief is that Vick is only doing his redemption for the almighty dollar and that's it.

PS, I also hate deer hunting or any hunting just for the sport of it.

[Patty55]

Oh, and not for nothing, I seriously doubt that Michael Vick and I have the same taste in clothing.

[Wi11iam]

Originally Posted by duffysmom

I don't care if it's Modell's or Penny's he should be boycotted. The only thing rehabilitated is his reputation. Don't bother asking me how I know this because it's my own opinion. Anyone who tortured animals and enjoyed it as sport is beyond rehabilitation. I put him in a class with pedophiles and abhor the fact that he isn't in prison.

I agree, an animal abuser is just an excuse for someone who is a coward and in the same catagory as a child abuser, or wife abuser. The difference is the animal can't defend itself or complain to the proper authorities to get them to stop.
If he did'nt get caught and loose a ton of money. would he still be doing the same thing.
Unacceptable to support his financial security.
Just my feelings. No offense to anyone meant, except Vicks

[bkcunningham1]

If people can’t be reformed, why not just keep everyone locked away or execute them? Something is wrong with a sense of right and wrong when you can’t determine the difference in an dog and a child in examples of Vick and child abusers. What has the world come to when you can accept that an animal that has been bred and raised to fight to the death can be rehabed but not a man?

[Here2Stay]

Originally Posted by duffysmom

i don't care if it's modell's or penny's he should be boycotted. The only thing rehabilitated is his reputation. Don't bother asking me how i know this because it's my own opinion. Anyone who tortured animals and enjoyed it as sport is beyond rehabilitation. I put him in a class with pedophiles and abhor the fact that he isn't in prison.

well spoken, i hope many read and understand the difference about paying for their crimes, this was a lifestyle he elected to be apart of, a sport...not a opps i made a mistake crime

[Patty55]

Originally Posted by bkcunningham1

If people can’t be reformed, why not just keep everyone locked away or execute them? Something is wrong with a sense of right and wrong when you can’t determine the difference in an dog and a child in examples of Vick and child abusers. What has the world come to when you can accept that an animal that has been bred and raised to fight to the death can be rehabed but not a man?

Actually, those poor animals generally cannot be rehabed. To me the difference lies in THE MAN HAD A CHOICE. In my experience dogs want nothing more than to please, they will lend themselves to abuse to please their owner. You make your choices in life, you accept the consequences.

Michael Vick had a life that many would envy, he blew it, BIG TIME.