[Luggage]

So basically you would like a dictatorship if only one person out of 100 million voted one way instead of the other way.

[joelfmi]

Most of all deception and corruption

[fgaba1949]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Agreed. It is one of my favorite things that Australia does that I find superior to the US.

So u want to force people to vote even if they dont want to ? Is that freedom ?

[Linnberg]

Originally Posted by jammaiora

Not true! Right now it is only one side who is armed and a threat. I can sense what side you are on!

Up to now, this has been a wonderful analysis by thoughtful people. Slight veiled statements showing political beliefs may have been
Included but kept to a minimum and not really stated.
Please don’t start now impacting this wonderful thread.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

"None of the above" should always be an option on election ballots. If you don't vote, your opinion doesn't count. It doesn't matter, it isn't recognized or acknowledged. If you vote "None of the Above" then your vote is specific, it counts, it matters, it makes a statement.

If enough people who are tired of the status quo were to vote "None of the Above" they'd have to select new candidate choices and schedule a new vote.

None of the Above is a valid option in India and comes with criteria and rules and significance. It's not perfect there - there have been NOTA votes that were greater than the votes for actual candidates in some elections there.

But it lets the government know that "We the People" are not happy with the options we've been given. It puts them on notice. It also puts the rest of the country on notice, when the NOTA vote is big enough.

Bingo!

I can think of few other ways that would keep government out of the hands of the extremists.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

He's not talking about everyone having equal ownership of everything. He's talking about the poor being less poor, and the ultra-wealthy contributing more in the form of taxes.

The poor will still not be wealthy. And the ultra-wealthy will still be ultra-wealthy. But no one will want for food, clothing, shelter, education, health, or opportunity to succeed. It's doing what Jesus tried to teach his disciples - when you find a man who has fallen, don't tread on him. Instead, reach out your hand and lift him up.

Makes sense, until one realizes that the definition of "wealthy" will ALWAYS be made by someone who is less wealthy than the proposed level determining it.

Rather than wealth rearrangement, why not try something more positive, such as favorable business climates for those entrepreneurs just starting out? Far too many states are business-hostile: my state of origin, Minnesota, was to a fault. Business were fleeing like deranged lemmings to states such as South Dakota that had a climate that encouraged entrepreneurship rather than squelching it.

[ThirdOfFive]

Originally Posted by fgaba1949

So u want to force people to vote even if they dont want to ? Is that freedom ?

Actually, it is responsibility--yanno, the other side of that coin that has "freedom" on it.

The law forces us to do all kinds of things that we may not want to do. Oh, some of us still do it: how many of us have driven 70 MPH in a 55 MPH zone, then complained bitterly when caught and made to pay a fine?

"Freedom" is NEVER free. And it is the responsibility of every one of us to assure that it continues to exist.

[Villages Kahuna]

Once again our Forefathers predicted what is happening now. Abraham Lincoln said… ”A house divided cannot stand.”

Unfortunately that was just before the Civil War.

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by jswirs

The largest threat to our country comes from within. (Trying to be PC). However, I do believe in FAITH OVER FEAR, and GOOD WILL TRIUMPH OVER EVIL, eventually.

That may be true, but America as we know it will be a thing of the past by then and hopefully I will have long been returned to ashes from wince I came.

[JeepsterGlenn]

Keep in mind that Russia and China are players in the mis-information and conspiracy theories.

They would love to see the U.S. have civil war so they can come in as peacekeepers and put in a “Stable” government that only has 1 leader and no other options!!!

Much cheaper way to take over a country than having to fight a war themselves…

[kkingston57]

Originally Posted by Lindsyburnsy

Maybe, but when you look at some of the young extremists, we need some of these old timers to keep the ship from sinking.

Term limits would keep them in check and old timers would not be necessary to keep the ship from sinking. Unfortunately Reps and Senators make the rules and have 0 incentive to change terms limits.

[MartinSE]

Originally Posted by Luggage

So basically you would like a dictatorship if only one person out of 100 million voted one way instead of the other way.

It is not all or nothing. Protection of minorities is built into the fabric of our country. Protection of minorities from the majority means the same as any rights. The majority can not impose on the minorities rights.

[holmesperdue]

and how decisive would we be without Fox news, CNN, MSNBC and the internet,,,

[sail33or]

Following laws, telling the truth, being good, etc. are functions of human morality. Our government (all governments) are humans.

Right out of the box, the Bible shows human morality to move to the "bad" side.

Whether literally true or not, the story of Adam and Eve sets the tone for everything that follows.

A human will take everything for themselves ultimately. All cultures and empires have failed throughout history, RIGHT?

[Regorp]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

As long as we continue to have loud, armed, violent clusters of people running around free and inciting violence, who demand that we all follow party over country, or individual over the Constitution, I will have no faith in the humanity of America.

As a student of the Revolutionary War, I find it interesting that our current ruling class is so similar to England and the control they had over the colonies. We all know what happened when they were unhappy with that control. I love our old USA.