[rp001]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

The men who died looking for the Bowe:

Staff Sergeant Clayton Bowen, 29, of San Antonio, Texas

Private 1st Class Morris Walker, 23, of Chapel Hill, N.C.

Staff Sergeant Kurt Curtiss, 27, of Murray, Utah

2nd Lieutenant Darryn Andrews, 34, of Dallas, Texas

Staff Sergeant Michael Murphrey, 25, of Snyder, Texas,

Facts, not political.

This is not new. Think of Somalia and the heroes that lost it all to rescue comrades in harms way. I ask that those that have been in that horrible place, (war) be the ones to pass judgement and others really have no clue what they are talking about. They just want to politicize it. For the record Congress ( select members) Was made aware of it and based on the detainee' s health and imminent danger the decision was made. My God, for once can we just understand the humanity and not make this an obvious Fox News moment!

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by rp001

This is not new. Think of Somalia and the heroes that lost it all to rescue comrades in harms way. I ask that those that have been in that horrible place, (war) be the ones to pass judgement and others really have no clue what they are talking about. They just want to politicize it. For the record Congress ( select members) Was made aware of it and based on the detainee' s health and imminent danger the decision was made. My God, for once can we just understand the humanity and not make this an obvious Fox News moment!

What is with all the appeals to not make this subject a political one and always have to make a comment on Fox news ? What world are you living in ?

This is story because of HOW it was done, WITH WHOM it was done and for years, NOT JUST TODAY, he has been called various things...traitor, whatever.

ALL of that makes it a story...this is not a simple matter of getting back a heroic POW under normal circumstances. Not even close, and it is being made political by those who find it necessary to comment on Fox news. The links I have read and posted....NBC, English press...dont think any Fox....

This seems to be a classic example of people not being able to discuss something like this without the charges being thrown around...whether it be the network it was heard on (THIS WAS ON ALL NETWORKS...ALL OF THEM), OR whatever.

Nobody has made any claims....everyone has an interest in this story and if some of you people would take off those political hats for just a second, you may understand.

PLEASE explain how this is a "Fox News moment! " as you call it. It is headlining each and every network and all over the world.

[blueash]

The nation with the most experience dealing with terrorism is Israel. They have one of the most right wing national governments at this time. The people of Israel have suffered at the hands of external suicide bombers to an extend unequalled anywhere. And what is the policy of Israel if an Israeli soldier is held by these terrorists? Recently Israel traded one thousand prisoners and sent them back to Hamas for a single Israeli soldier. Of those traded nearly 300 were serving life sentences in Israel for directly being responsible for the deaths of nearly 570 Israeli citizens. This is only the most recent of many exchanges between Israel and those who are or have in the past expressed a desire to destroy that nation. Israel has even several times exchanged high level prisoners for known dead soldiers.

List of Israeli prisoner exchanges - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So now the US has had to give up 5 high value terrorists for a captured American. Whether he abandoned his post or not, we, like the Israelis are committed to the return to our side of our soldiers (should they want to be returned). The feelings of his military comrades as to how he came to be captured are important. The deaths of those who sought to rescue him are important. But those deaths are meaningless if you now say he doesn't deserve to come home, he should have been left there. You can be sure that there will be big time hearings criticizing the administration as there is for everything. But until the facts, not a news report or a book or a quote from someone who served and is guessing what happened, we bring back our servicemen and women. Only one person knows how this soldier happened to be caught and we haven't heard from him yet. I am glad he is on his way home. For those criticizing this action, what do you believe would have been the reaction if Bergdahl had died in captivity and word got out that the Taliban had offered to trade him for five prisoners and Obama had refused. Don't tell me you don't know how that would get spun. Please give me the list of those national leaders who have before this exchange happened publicly stated that the US should not be trying to get this soldier home and he should be left to rot in Taliban captivity. Crickets?

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by janmcn

Look up the military Code of Conduct before criticizing the government for rescuing a prisoner of war.

This should give all those residents on active service or with children or grandchildren on active duty some comfort knowing the government will try to recue you if you are captured and become a POW. Thank you for your service.

IF, I did say IF, he was a POW......he put himself in that situation. He was not captured......he walked out of camp and into their arms. On ABC News (not even Fox), a member of the unit he deserted was interviewed and he is disgusted with this guy. It was a touching interview from a guy who was there.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by rp001

This is not new. Think of Somalia and the heroes that lost it all to rescue comrades in harms way. I ask that those that have been in that horrible place, (war) be the ones to pass judgement and others really have no clue what they are talking about. They just want to politicize it. For the record Congress ( select members) Was made aware of it and based on the detainee' s health and imminent danger the decision was made. My God, for once can we just understand the humanity and not make this an obvious Fox News moment!

Never said it was new. Did I say it was new............Nope.

Just remembering the lost men who went looking for the deserter. I feel for the families of these men............mostly with the current events. No politics here. Just remembering and honoring.

[rp001]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Never said it was new. Did I say it was new............Nope.

Just remembering the lost men who went looking for the deserter. I feel for the families of these men............mostly with the current events. No politics here. Just remembering and honoring.

This is based on assumptions, prematurely I might add. That is why it should not be opinionated till ALL the facts are in. I believe one of ours is worth hundreds of theirs. Anything done by this administration is criticized, especially by Fox News. You don't know yet anything of him being a " deserter" just what the talking heads on TV tell you! Have you been in a war?

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by rp001

This is based on assumptions, prematurely I might add. That is why it should not be opinionated till ALL the facts are in. I believe one of ours is worth hundreds of theirs. Anything done by this administration is criticized, especially by Fox News. You don't know yet anything of him being a " deserter" just what the talking heads on TV tell you! Have you been in a war?

Some of Bergdahl's fellow soldiers are speaking out against the trade negotiated to bring him home, calling him a "deserter" for walking away from his base.

"I was ****ed off then and I am even more so now with everything going on," former Sgt. Matt Vierkant, a member of Bergdahl's platoon when he went missing, told CNN. "Bowe Bergdahl deserted during a time of war and his fellow Americans lost their lives searching for him."

Nathan Bradley Bethea, who also served in Bergdahl's unit, wrote a piece for the Daily Beast describing how Bergdahl is just "a guy who walked off in the dead of night," and blamed Bergdahl for the loss of other soldiers who died while searching for him.

Pretty good facts for me.

[VT2TV]

The main problem to me is that Obama took it upon himself-once again, illegally, to make this trade. He is required to discuss this with Congress, and 30 days should pass while it is being discussed. That is the LAW!!!! Not to mention that the US is not supposed to negotiate with terrorists. Heaven forbid that Obama pays any attention to the laws of the US. This has just increased the incentive for more US captures. This person who left his post has been gone for 5 years. What was the hurry now?? Why did this have to be done so quickly and illegally? It is an insult to the servicemen who lost their lives searching for him.

[rp001]

Originally Posted by VT2TV

The main problem to me is that Obama took it upon himself-once again, illegally, to make this trade. He is required to discuss this with Congress, and 30 days should pass while it is being discussed. That is the LAW!!!! Not to mention that the US is not supposed to negotiate with terrorists. Heaven forbid that Obama pays any attention to the laws of the US. This has just increased the incentive for more US captures. This person who left his post has been gone for 5 years. What was the hurry now?? Why did this have to be done so quickly and illegally? It is an insult to the servicemen who lost their lives searching for him.

Yea and during the last eclipse Obama tried to steal the moon

[DeniseZ]

This country is in big trouble. Very sad.

[wendyquat]

Originally Posted by DeniseZ

This country is in big trouble. Very sad.

And it only takes reading some of these post to realize why!

[getdul981]

Originally Posted by rp001

Have you been in a war?

YES I HAVE!!

I think that the President has overstepped his boundaries this time (once again) by making a trade of five terrorists for one US soldier. I have never heard of the United States negotiating with anyone to release a hostage. If this sergeant is found to be a deserter, we have just released 5 of the worlds top terrorists to wreak havok once again. This thread will probably be closed because it will be considered political by the Admin, but I don't think it is political. Instead I believe it to be patriotic.

Why would you trade 5 known terrorists for one deserter?

[VT2TV]

Originally Posted by rp001

Yea and during the last eclipse Obama tried to steal the moon

I don't even understand what you are saying, because everything I posted is law and policy of the US.

[redwitch]

America has always negotiated to get prisoners of war back, even Reagan (think the Iran-Contra affair). As much as I resent that this "soldier" caused the death of 5 marines and that 5 Taliban leaders were freed to bring him home (and, believe me, I do highly resent that), time-honored tradition was followed to get a POW home. This is a prisoner exchange, not a terrorist negotiation. The Taliban is at war with the USA, it is not considered a terrorist organization. It is not on any American terrorist list (although some of its leaders are). Obama broke no laws in making this exchange -- as CIC, he has the right to negotiate to get back a POW, even if the POW is a total punk slimeball (and I doubt I'll ever understand why this was done -- kid deserved what he got; he went AWOL and denigrated the US long before running).

[rjn5656]

Another example of the poor leader we have elected.