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Please try again on reading my posts. I have made all of this very clear. MM take a look at this post to which I am responding and see why I posted I am against people attributing things to people that are false and then arguing with them on that premise, and how it can relate to a thread on STRs or any other topic. |
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However, I think you can hear the pain and suffering many residents have expressed and most of them are not even on this forum. I hope you chose not to ignore it. |
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I do hear the pain and suffering many residents have expressed. I do realize there are many others who have experienced this and possibly worse. That is why I said I am ambivalent. My only personal direct knowledge/experience is positive with them. But I hear and sympathize with the posts in this thread and others. That is why, with only (very limited) positive experience with them, I am conflicted rather than in support. I would like to say that I won't choose to ignore it, but it is unlikely that I will take action on either side, and I think that could easily be construed as ignoring it. I think what colors my responses to this topic is really strong feelings/reactions on another topic (which is waaayy off topic) where I also think people are overestimating the scale and recomending banning rather than addressing the true problem. I do strongly support the bill that died this year where the owners are penalized (not like jail, but other things) for the transgressions of their renters. That, in my mind addresses (or at least targets) the real issue. I don't think renters are a problem, I think problem renters and problem landlords are the problem, and THAT is what should be fixed. I would also support not allowing renting to people under a certain age, or they must at least have one of us old folks with them, since I think that is what the Villages is advertised to be and many bought into. I know many hotels won't rent to adults under a certain age. |
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Nearly 400 posts and I'm still waiting for someone to suggest a solution. "They should do something about it". Who's they? "Regulations should be adopted". By whom? Under what authority? "The State will step in and fix it". Oh really? The "state" (as in Legislature) has proven year after year, they are in favor of allowing STR's. "I'm not going to vote for a County Commissioner, unless he agrees to stop STR's". Well, unfortunately, the County is prohibited by state law, from outlawing STR's or even implementing a law that requires rentals to be any specific length. "The CDD has to protect us". How? CDD's have NO Zoning Power, nor do they have any power to regulate occupancy of a home. They control Infrastructure & amenities. "The Developer has to prohibit STR's". Even if he did prohibit STR's in newer sections of TV, how does that help anyone who already owns a home? "The Developer should ban STR's in all The Villages". How? Why would he? What's he have to gain by trying to do that? The Developer doesn't care if existing homeowners are unhappy, it doesn't hurt him. I'm hearing a whole lot of railing against STR's, but no substantive suggestions how to change anything ... just a lot of wishful thinking and nonsensical statements. If anyone really wants to do something about STR's, I doubt complaining on TOTV is going to be productive. Put your big boy pants on and put your money when your keyboard is ... file a lawsuit, it's the American way. I'll wait .... |
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They certainly pass laws for taxes, require landlords to be present when guests occupy their premises and restrict uses of amenities. |
All Florida beachfront properties too! No rentals under 30 days.
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There you go, with the amorphous "they". Who? The CDD's control amenities. What are "they" going to do? Say people who are renting for less than 30 days can't go to the pool? That'll work well. "They" who pass laws for taxes? "They" being the County? They don't have any involvement with the amenities. "They" being the State of Florida? They've already emphatically demonstrated where they stand on STR's. "They" can require a landlord be present? Show me just ONE city/town/county in Florida who has done that, other than one of the 75 "Grandfathered" jurisdictions. If it's been done in Florida, I certainly haven't been able to find any evidence of it. & I can't wait to hear what possibly motivation "they" may have, to jump into this quagmire, which so far, seems to be nothing more than a few Villages complaining about transient neighbors they don't like. Have you called "they" and asked them when they're going to fix this issue for you? |
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Anyone who says nothing can be done is a flat out liar. A lot can be done at different levels of government. Sumter county can administer taxes and fines as it pleases. CDDs can restrict usage of amenities whenever they want if a guest isn’t paying those fees. And do note, the 2011 law says terms can’t be regulated, but it does go on to approve local governing bodies to regulate for the public good. Maybe people believe landlords should be present if they have “guests” for the good of public safety and control. “Hosted rentals” are becoming an obvious fix for many. Rent till your heart’s content, but be responsible for the guests you invite in. In 2011, cities were banned from adopting new short-term rental regulations. Due to strong opposition, however, a revision passed in 2014 placing the power back in the hands of local lawmakers so long as there was no attempt to completely ban vacation rental properties or impose limits on how often they could be rented out to guests or for how long. Some continue to cite the 2011 law and omit the newer 2014 law that gave communities some power again. |
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"Administer taxes and fines"? Sumter County gets paid all their taxes, I'm sure. Fines? What are the going to assess "fines" for? Because someone put their trash out, a day early? Because they were playing loud music or dressed improperly? What regulations are they going to adopt & then fine folks, for violating? Sure. the CDD can restrict access ... but who's not paying their fees? You pay your fees, you get to play. I'm sure a lot of folks would like to see a regulation that says "landlords must be present". Everyone thinks that's a cute, back door approach to eliminating STR's. There is at least 1/2 BILLION dollars worth of STR's in TV. Presumably, all those STR owners are making profits from those 1000 rentals. If each STR owner (to protect their investment) contributes $500, that's 1/2 million dollars to fight the little ol' Sumter County. Do you think the STR owners are going to sit still and accept ridiculous regulations? Do you really think Sumter County cares about a few disgruntled owners in TV? With the amount of tax revenue Sumter gets from TV, they're not going to rock the boat, what do they have to gain? I get the general premise. As I've said before, I don't think STR's should be allowed in a Residential Zoning District, but that horse has left the barn. The town I live in NH, is going through this exact issue and I've been heavily involved in trying to prevent the proliferation of STR's. Like the grandfathered counties in FL, our local zoning would appear to prohibit STR's in the Residential District. Despite the town's apparently ability to stop STR's, they have chosen to "regulate" them. By making that choice, they have acquiesced to the real estate & business lobby and the community will become 30% "investor owned rental properties", within the next 10 years. I can tell you, it's great for real estate values, but the community will never be the same. |
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