[Prpcmom]

Am I the only one who noticed that the study cited includes just 300 subjects, 2/3 of which were not human?? This is simply not a large enough sample size to draw the conclusions to extrapolate to a population of millions!

[RoboVil]

Originally Posted by shaw8700@outlook.com

I was disappointed when I read this. I don’t know why RFK is against fluoride.

We have known for a decade or more that fluoride increases bone fracture risk. The higher the fluoride content in the water the more increased risk. Seems it affects the 3D structure of bone making them more brittle despite actually increasing bone density.

[Cliff Fr]

Just use flouride toothpaste if your concerned

[Michael 61]

Great news - our water supply needs to remain feee of additives. If one wants fluoride, there are ways to get it.

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by ithos

DeSantis signs bill making Florida second state to ban fluoride from its water system - ABC News

Long past due:

Conclusions: NTP concludes that fluoride is presumed to be a cognitive neurodevelopmental hazard to humans. This conclusion is based on a consistent pattern of findings in human studies across several different populations showing that higher fluoride exposure is associated with decreased IQ or other cognitive impairments in children.

Systematic review of epidemiological and toxicological evidence on health effects of fluoride in drinking water - PubMed
Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation

There is fluoride in my toothpaste. Is there toothpaste without fluoride in it. Is there fluoride in beer?

[kingofbeer]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

That was an interesting video. Meanwhile, most of us brush our teeth with fluoride toothpaste, and I don’t spit—I swallow. Also, when our teeth are cleaned, the dentist recommends painting our teeth with fluoride mixed with something like lacquer that wears off in a day but puts a lot of fluoride right on the teeth. Thus, banning fluoridated water won’t keep my teeth from being fluoridated. (Some bottled water is also fluoridated.)

There are certainly a lot of kids in Fluorida who aren’t all that bright and who really need every IQ point they can get. However, their IQs will be much higher if their parents work at raising them. My parents read to my siblings and I every day for an hour or more. I was encouraged to read challenging books daily as soon as I could read. I grew up around interesting grown-up conversation, and dinner was the time to not only eat but discuss ideas and world affairs. Restricting cell phone and computer and video game use and television and sports and requiring study of many subjects will raise scores on IQ tests. By the way, the IQ tests reported were given to kids who were 3-4, and that’s an age when intense home education effort from parents really pays off.

Never heard of anyone swallowing toothpaste spit.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by RoboVil

We have known for a decade or more that fluoride increases bone fracture risk. The higher the fluoride content in the water the more increased risk. Seems it affects the 3D structure of bone making them more brittle despite actually increasing bone density.

What have we learned in that decade or more about the concentration of fluoride associated with increased risk of bone fractures, the concentration associated with dental benefits and the concentration in US water systems?

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

Just use flouride toothpaste if your concerned

Topical fluoride is much better than nothing but not the same as fluoride in the water.

[Mrs. Heck]

Originally Posted by HappyTraveler

Agreed that this is long overdue. There's a very strong argument that it was always big brother over-reach. We'll handle our own dental care.

Fluoride is most helpful for children up to 8 years old. They need the extra fluoride to strengthen their teeth. After that is doesn’t much help adult teeth. Parents of youngsters will now need to pay for fluoride treatments, because that is not included in any dental insurance plan, and I doubt that will change. Do toothpastes contain fluoride? If yes, be sure to buy the brands that do.

[Lottoguy]

All of the dentists in the USA are in favor of this. There is a good money to make in cavities.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

From the same article:

In the United States, many areas have water with fluoride levels below 0.7 mg/L. That’s why so many local governments add it to the drinking water. But in other regions of the world, like parts of Asia and Africa, natural groundwater contains excessive amounts of fluoride. In India, the average concentration in drinking water is around 2.37 mg/L, and the highest recorded level is 9.22 mg/L. People living in these areas are far more likely to develop fluorosis compared to people living in the U.S

There other reasons I wouldn’t be drinking water in Asia, Africa, and especially in India.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

All of the dentists in the USA are in favor of this. There is a good money to make in cavities.

For people that don’t brush their teeth. Get up charge for deeeeeep cheating, opps I mean deep cleaning. Which what their supposed to do when go to dentist…

[frayedends]

We should not be putting toxins in drinking water, period. People should have a choice (and no I don't consider public water supply to be a choice). Fluoride is toxic. Notice your toothpaste says do not swallow. Now, purely anecdotal, but, since fluoride in water we have had explosions in autism. Not saying it caused it but who knows.

As far as teeth, how about stop eating sugar all day. I am on well water in Massachusetts, no fluoride and I use no-fluoride toothpaste because fluoride causes me burning mouth syndrome. I haven't had a cavity in my adult life.

[gorillarick]

Originally Posted by Buckeyephan

Well, none of my three kids had any cavities. When my sister and I went to the dentist as children, it wasn’t a question of if we had any cavities. It was how many. My niece lives in the country and has a well. Her children took fluoride supplements. I understand they want to ban those, too.

Yeah, but kids now don't soak their teen in Coca Cola like we did ?

I remember chem class in college; professor explaining how fluoride is in the same column (Periodic Table) as chloride.
Body can't tell the difference, and will harden arteries.
Chloride is an electrolyte (necessary), and is part of salt (NaCl) sodium chloride.
Dunno, but makes sense.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by frayedends

We should not be putting toxins in drinking water, period. People should have a choice (and no I don't consider public water supply to be a choice). Fluoride is toxic. Notice your toothpaste says do not swallow. Now, purely anecdotal, but, since fluoride in water we have had explosions in autism. Not saying it caused it but who knows.

As far as teeth, how about stop eating sugar all day. I am on well water in Massachusetts, no fluoride and I use no-fluoride toothpaste because fluoride causes me burning mouth syndrome. I haven't had a cavity in my adult life.

Fluoride has been added to US water systems for about 75 years. The "explosion" in autism began about 20 years ago. There's not even a correlation!

Chlorine is toxic as well. Would you suggest we also stop adding chlorine to water?

[frayedends]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Fluoride has been added to US water systems for about 75 years. The "explosion" in autism began about 20 years ago. There's not even a correlation!

Chlorine is toxic as well. Would you suggest we also stop adding chlorine to water?

I stand corrected then as I didn't realize it's been that long.

Yes, there is no need to add chlorine to water. There's no chlorine in my well water.