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Old 04-24-2020, 02:02 PM
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I believe DTENNENT said it well in his.her post. No case to be made. The kind of action you are ranting on about has been happening for a lot of years by many countries. It is handled mostly without a show of manly words, as our Navy is well trained to do. A tweet as was given, sort of hogties our Naval leaders.

People know who has military power, and who doesn't...no need to brag in the playground about how strong you are. Our State Department has been watered down, but we still can handle this without braggadocio.
I agree that DTENNET said it well … I so posted in fact.

Ranting is a loaded term so I won’t take the bait.

Having deployed many times, my experience is the Navy operates best with strong leadership and support from the top -- something that’s been lacking in the past. You use the term “manly” words derisively, which inadvertently gives an insight into your thinking actually. The tweet, rather than hogtying, empowers local commanders to use their best judgement to defend their ships without worrying about CYA from DC deskbound commandos and legal beagles.

You use the term bragging, again not the optimal choice. The objective is deterrence which is the real point. I must respectfully disagree w/r/t to State. They made a hash on things in the Middle East and, while we’re at it, China. In addition, any genuine diplomat knows that, without the credible threat of force somewhere in the background, diplomacy is ineffective.

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[QUOTE=B767drvr;1752111]Superior firepower camp! Why? Well...


Are you a Superior Flower Power Proponent, a Superior Firepower Proponent, or a Redneck?

Here is a little test that will help you decide:

You're walking down a deserted street with your wife and two small children. Suddenly, an Islamic terrorist with a huge knife comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities, praises Allah, raises the knife, and charges at you.

You are carrying a Glock cal. 40, and you are an expert shot. You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your family.

What do you do?

I was smart enough not to be in that neighborhood to begin with.
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Superior firepower camp! Why? Well...


Are you a Superior Flower Power Proponent, a Superior Firepower Proponent, or a Redneck?

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I was smart enough not to be in that neighborhood to begin with.
That's definitely the preferable option, but sometimes the neighborhood comes to you, so to speak.
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I would ask him to please social distance himself at least 6-feet from my family during these uncertain times when the new normal means we are all fighting an invisible enemy rather than one another.
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Thank you for your brief, prejudicial and grammatically incorrect opinion. Next time you might want to at least offer a modicum of evidence in support of your view.
Bumpy, I share your frustration with rampant grammatical atrocities all over social mania. My position, though, is that if we purists tried to correct everyone, we'd have no time to do anything else, so I just let it go.

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Re: Peace Through Superior Firepower or Flower Power?

As an observer of history and a retired Law Enforcement Officer, I feel I must comment.

The last war we won decisively was WWII. Why did we win? We firebombed enemy cities and factories in and near large population areas and in so doing killed a large number of civilians as collateral damage. We dropped an atomic bomb and destroyed cities. After the war we humanely treated the conquered enemy. We fought to win and brought the battle to the enemy. That was the last war we fought to win the rest we fought to a truce, and look where we are now. Surrounded by enemies or people who think we are weak and will not take action against "incursions," or minor "harassment."
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Re: Peace Through Superior Firepower or Flower Power?

As an observer of history and a retired Law Enforcement Officer, I feel I must comment.

The last war we won decisively was WWII. Why did we win? We firebombed enemy cities and factories in and near large population areas and in so doing killed a large number of civilians as collateral damage. We dropped an atomic bomb and destroyed cities. After the war we humanely treated the conquered enemy. We fought to win and brought the battle to the enemy. That was the last war we fought to win the rest we fought to a truce, and look where we are now. Surrounded by enemies or people who think we are weak and will not take action against "incursions," or minor "harassment."
Wow, sadly is that ever true. Fifty years of peace & prosperity has bred weakness, naivete and a spoiled people who can apparently no longer muster what it takes to win against our enemies.

Worse, a lot of our people are so soft(headed) they don't even realize we have enemies as witnessed by some postings on this board.
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Wow, sadly is that ever true. Fifty years of peace & prosperity has bred weakness, naivete and a spoiled people who can apparently no longer muster what it takes to win against our enemies.

Worse, a lot of our people are so soft(headed) they don't even realize we have enemies as witnessed by some postings on this board.

Hard times make strong men - Strong men make good times - Good times make weak men - Weak men make hard times
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Hard times make strong men - Strong men make good times - Good times make weak men - Weak men make hard times
That's pretty much the cycle of history ... concisely stated.
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You sound like a responsible supporter of the 2nd amendment. Concealed Weapons License holders know that, if you can avoid the fight, that's always the recommended course.
I am. I'm also personally anti-gun. Meaning - I refuse to own one, and I refuse to allow one in my house. But I'm also in favor of protecting the rights of other people to own them, as long as THEY are responsible and have respect for the fact that the #1 primary function and purpose of a gun, the reason they exist in the first place - is to kill people or animals. And - if you are carrying one, you'd better be prepared, trained, and mentally capable of using it.

I know that I am not capable of killing another human being. And so - I refuse to own a gun. Simple as that.
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I beleave you must add one more very important ingredient. Capability of your personal Gray Matter. If your slow to process complex thought, shoulder your gun. If you are a quick thinker, you would process the situation in an attempt to find a less violent method to defuse the situation.
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Speak softly and carry a big stick. Teddy Roosevelt.

Don't need to brag about your superior power, just make sure you have it. So as it pertains to the OP's example. It said you were an excellent shot. So if possible I would fire just at his feet. If he stopped OK. If not or I didn't have time for step one then take out his knee. If he keeps coming, use the redneck method.

In reality you don't know what you would do if placed in a kill or be killed situation. Most of us, even the most flower power of you, would fall back to basic survival instincts and protect your loved ones.
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I beleave you must add one more very important ingredient. Capability of your personal Gray Matter. If your slow to process complex thought, shoulder your gun. If you are a quick thinker, you would process the situation in an attempt to find a less violent method to defuse the situation.
I think you meant to say "holster your gun" vs shoulder it since it was in the context of CWP carrier.

If a situation can be defuzed and a fight avoided, that is always the recommended course.
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