[Rags123]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am glad they are gone too Tal. Do you remember when that guy went over to that other site and was posting using my name?

He was complaint about you and your behavior on TOTV, and you solicited about ten if us to go to that site and scare him. I will list the names and your PM request when I find it.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Well good. No one is going to harm themselves.

And truth still is truth.

This surely has been a fascinating thread.

It for me nor my wife. Cruel insinuations and comments on my age, etc. nasty stuff when you make such snide comments about others

By the way was just discussing this behavior......you told me that guy you solicited me and some others to attack, was a drunk and made posts while drinking.

Was that true or like insinuating things about my age, etc ?

[Taltarzac725]

You will be missed Bucco.

I try to avoid cable news as well and just stick to the evening news.

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[Northwoods]

It was definitely getting too personal...
Let me take a shot at how I see "opinions" right now...
There are dog people and there are cat people. (We're ignoring those that are both right now).
Both feel very strongly about their preference. Let's say the head of the dog "party" is Tiger Woods, and let's say the head of the cat "party" is Lance Armstrong (you can interchange them...). If you're a cat person you can talk about what a cheater and hot head Tiger is. As a dog person, I might actually agree. I might not even respect Tiger Woods. But whether I think Tiger Woods is the best golfer ever or if I think he's a cheating skum, he is only the current figurehead for dog lovers. And ultimately, my "North star" is that I'm a dog lover.
Many people attack Tiger Woods or Lance Armstrong. Or they say why being a dog (or cat) person is unamerican. People need to understand why people are dog people or cat people. People need to stop attacking the other side. Agree to disagree. Both sides have good reasons for their preference/opinions. Stop putting the other side down...

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Northwoods

It was definitely getting too personal...
Let me take a shot at how I see "opinions" right now...
There are dog people and there are cat people. (We're ignoring those that are both right now).
Both feel very strongly about their preference. Let's say the head of the dog "party" is Tiger Woods, and let's say the head of the cat "party" is Lance Armstrong (you can interchange them...). If you're a cat person you can talk about what a cheater and hot head Tiger is. As a dog person, I might actually agree. I might not even respect Tiger Woods. But whether I think Tiger Woods is the best golfer ever or if I think he's a cheating skum, he is only the current figurehead for dog lovers. And ultimately, my "North star" is that I'm a dog lover.
Many people attack Tiger Woods or Lance Armstrong. Or they say why being a dog (or cat) person is unamerican. People need to understand why people are dog people or cat people. People need to stop attacking the other side. Agree to disagree. Both sides have good reasons for their preference/opinions. Stop putting the other side down...

Bravo, and then fact check to make yourself a more educated supporter of cats or dogs, phewww!

[graciegirl]

In summary, this thread has been about the truth, and about compassion too.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by jebartle

FACT CHECK, FACT CHECK, NO MATTER what your persuasion . Sure hope this does NOT go political because this is so important, this would apply to life. So many times I hear Villagers say "How can I believe what I read and hear?", and in this time, more than any other, it's time for ALL of us to do our homework and investigate where the truth lies. We are so fortunate to have technology at our finger tips, please put the truth as your priority.

Just wanted to go back to this. Call your hometown reference librarians as they are usually familiar with the most reliable sources on many topics. Sports, business, trivia, etc. They are not allowed to give medical nor legal advice though.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

There are also "tells" when you're cruising the internet, or when someone posts a video or picture or statement on their facebook page. If you hover over the hyperlink, you'll see the address of that hyperlink. If the address includes mercola or whaleto, you can be pretty confident that it's a conspiracy theory that has already been debunked by actual science. If, once you do click on a link, you discover that it's a commercial website created primarily to sell a product, you can assume their spin will be very heavily in favor of whatever product they're selling. They will cherry-pick actual facts, and draw conclusions based on correlations. Science says: correlation does not equal causation. Always keep that in mind.

I could come up with a few dozen examples of the above but they'd all turn this back into a political discussion. So you can try it out yourself. Come up with a current issue about anything. Now check mercola and whaleto to see what they have to say about it. Then, go to an actual scientific website (not WebMD, that is an aggregate that anyone can upload "articles" to). See the difference for yourself.

A hypothetical example: a friend sends you an article about how blue dye in cotton textile manufacturing causes cancer, and everyone is being told to avoid anything made by Acme Clothing, because they use blue dye.

If you trace that "information" far enough, you're very likely to discover that its original source is Smith Clothing company, which is Acme's #1 competitor. And when you check out "blue dye cancer" google searches, you'll discover that the top 20 results will all favor Smith Clothing, or be against Acme. If you add the word "hoax" to your search, you'll find that Snopes has debunked it.

[Boomer]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

In summary, this thread has been about the truth, and about compassion too.

And, thus, history is rewritten. How appropriately Orwellian.

But I know what I saw — even though those posts are gone now.

It sure was not compassion.

I had tried to talk myself out of posting this. But I decided that I would feel bad if I did not speak up for —truth.


(PS: OK, Moderator, get ready for this post to be reported. I’m done.)

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Boomer

And, thus, history is rewritten. How appropriately Orwellian.

But I know what I saw — even though those posts are gone now.

It sure was not compassion.

I had tried to talk myself out of posting this. But I decided that I would feel bad if I did not speak up for —truth.


(PS: OK, Moderator, get ready for this post to be reported. I’m done.)

Now THAT'S...the truth!

[Madelaine Amee]

Originally Posted by Boomer

And, thus, history is rewritten. How appropriately Orwellian.

But I know what I saw — even though those posts are gone now.

It sure was not compassion.

I had tried to talk myself out of posting this. But I decided that I would feel bad if I did not speak up for —truth.


(PS: OK, Moderator, get ready for this post to be reported. I’m done.)

Thank you Boomer, for having the guts to write what I could not . There are none so blind as cannot see what they do.

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee

Thank you Boomer, for having the guts to write what I could not . There are none so blind as cannot see what they do.

And thank you!

[Cedwards38]

You can believe the truth that is reported from reliable news sources, but not from those who are affiliated with a particular political party or persuasion. You know who they are. Those news sources that have reported the truth to us since we were children can still be trusted to do so today. Unfortunately, in today's world so many of us only want to hear things that coincide with what we want to believe rather than the facts.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

You can believe the truth that is reported from reliable news sources, but not from those who are affiliated with a particular political party or persuasion. You know who they are. Those news sources that have reported the truth to us since we were children can still be trusted to do so today. Unfortunately, in today's world so many of us only want to hear things that coincide with what we want to believe rather than the facts.

Facts are often a very painful thing to hear especially when I see the scales over 210 lbs. I liked the One Blood scales before the took the lbs off even if the scale was faulty. The scale would say 205 when it really should have been 209.

They do have a more accurate scale now.

I used to abstract business articles in regional business magazines for Area Business Data Bank put out by Information Access Company then of Belmont, CA. Anyway my editor Robert Lee wanted me to just stick to the facts as much as possible which usually involved numbers like $ earned, $ lost, profit, market share, # of employees, etc. I would try to amuse myself and my editors by sticking puns in the abstracts. History of Information Access Company – FundingUniverse