[Bucco]

Originally Posted by fw102807

The problem is that something you may view as an absolute truth may not be to others and that is not an issue of morality as you like to paint but just a matter of interpretation. I believe that in many instances (like the Covington teens) there are more sides to the story than what is presented. People base their decisions not on a lack of morality but on a different way of processing data or where they were raised or what their current life situation is or a multitude of other reasons not necessarily because they are amoral. I just find your posts too judgmental. Yes there is evil in the world but there are many good people also who just want to get along.

I can understand your view point....

1. Covington source was a homemade video posted on social media, NOT NEWS. News folks cleared it up. Just to be straight on that. Was not a journalistic venture....but social media which is where we can source much.

2. Without making this to go into a area of P which is out, let me just say......what we are being told in many cases by both sides of the equation is flat out not true. IF you follow whatever way, you are being misled. It affects a lot of us. I realize you think I am speaking of only one way but that is not true at all, although simply because of the pulpit available, most is. IF YOU VOTE ON ISSUES, which I do, and not personalities, then you are misled if you follow either side without searching for facts. From the pulpit is mostly lies from the other is mostly wishy washy platitudes and you think about it for even a second, you know that to be true.

You can attack me all you want......at lease I am alive to fight back....you can go into other threads and talk about me, but do me a favor.......discuss the issue......what example is there that you have that did not emanate from a social media homemade video that hows the media is lying which is the subject of this thread.

I was also upset at the Covington thing but also upset at attacks on our country and its institutions. If you wish to dwell on something that started with a home video and was only on the media because of internet trolls, that is your right. There are nasty, idiotic and hate filled videos on the internet right now which are disgusting. There are hate statements made each day, which represent our country as they travel around the world.

Anyway, if this is now going to be about the Covington story and that used to proclaim the media as biased and bad.........well, I find that just plain stupid. That is a desperate attempt to change the subject.

YES, we all process date differently....FOR SURE, but my wish is that we process the same date and then discuss how we arrived at our position. We do not do that EVER it seems, and do not want to gt into details because I think this thread is important if we stay on subject.

Those who are claiming the media lies or distorts, I ask you for examples and never get them. If Covington is your answer which was a social media event, well we will never agree. i, PERSONALLY, need truth on budgets, foreign policy and such things.

[Abby10]

Originally Posted by Bucco

One more thing please on social media.

The US government had public hearings on the impact of Facebook postings and the interference by foreign government in such things. They concluded totally, and on both sides, that this foreign government had an intent to divide our country using these mediums, yet we still go to these sites to have our minds raped.

Covington is a case in point. The only report was on such media and the divide took place. Read...read....that is the point of this thread.

A story begun by homevideo on social media isnot bad reporting. Reporting accuretly that such a video was out there and ending such story is good journalism, and that pretty much is what happened.

Stay off those crap websites...their goal is not to tell the truth

I seem to remember that even though the video may have first popped up on social media, it was not the only bad reporting that took place over the situation. In fact, one news source that you state as NOTHING but truthful at all times participated in unverified and erroneous reporting regarding this incident along with other news sources as well. Not sure how you missed that part of the story. The ending of the story, as you put it, occurred much later after these news sources practically destroyed the reputation of what appears to be a very decent young man.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by thetruth

Obviously it is not just the subject who lies. We cannot get into politics on this website. But, a major issue today and in the past is the agenda of the news source.

Perhaps, a safe historical FACT was the Spanish American War.
The war was actually caused by the press. The SCREAM was remember the Maine. The paper reported that the battle ship Maine was torpedoed and we went to war. The TRUTH was that the ship blew itself up due to improper fire control and ammunition storage.

Lots of that went on in history and before we had what we have today for data. Lost a friend on the Thresher and still has mysterious reasons...that happens for sure.

I am simply amazed how folks come on here and stretch their assets to find some fault with our free press. Never saw anything like it but I assume you folks have a reason for that (other than social media bursts on facebook)

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Those who are claiming the media lies or distorts, I ask you for examples and never get them. If Covington is your answer which was a social media event, well we will never agree. i, PERSONALLY, need truth on budgets, foreign policy and such things.

Just a few, and the tip of the iceberg I think.
The mainstream media’s lies, and the liars behind them - The Horn News

That's all I'm going to get involved in in this "discussion". I will get banned. I am showing damn good restraint with this.
Steve

[Abby10]

Originally Posted by Bucco

I can understand your view point....

1. Covington source was a homemade video posted on social media, NOT NEWS. News folks cleared it up. Just to be straight on that. Was not a journalistic venture....but social media which is where we can source much.

2. Without making this to go into a area of P which is out, let me just say......what we are being told in many cases by both sides of the equation is flat out not true. IF you follow whatever way, you are being misled. It affects a lot of us. I realize you think I am speaking of only one way but that is not true at all, although simply because of the pulpit available, most is. IF YOU VOTE ON ISSUES, which I do, and not personalities, then you are misled if you follow either side without searching for facts. From the pulpit is mostly lies from the other is mostly wishy washy platitudes and you think about it for even a second, you know that to be true.

You can attack me all you want......at lease I am alive to fight back....you can go into other threads and talk about me, but do me a favor.......discuss the issue......what example is there that you have that did not emanate from a social media homemade video that hows the media is lying which is the subject of this thread.

I was also upset at the Covington thing but also upset at attacks on our country and its institutions. If you wish to dwell on something that started with a home video and was only on the media because of internet trolls, that is your right. There are nasty, idiotic and hate filled videos on the internet right now which are disgusting. There are hate statements made each day, which represent our country as they travel around the world.

Anyway, if this is now going to be about the Covington story and that used to proclaim the media as biased and bad.........well, I find that just plain stupid. That is a desperate attempt to change the subject.

YES, we all process date differently....FOR SURE, but my wish is that we process the same date and then discuss how we arrived at our position. We do not do that EVER it seems, and do not want to gt into details because I think this thread is important if we stay on subject.

Those who are claiming the media lies or distorts, I ask you for examples and never get them. If Covington is your answer which was a social media event, well we will never agree. i, PERSONALLY, need truth on budgets, foreign policy and such things.

You must have missed a lot going on with the Covington situation. Your posts totally confound me that you didn't see or read the erroneous reporting that occurred over this situation by the media. It is readily available from many sources by just googling it. You are right in the sense that they "cleared it up" but not after printing and airing one-sided, inaccurate information for quite some time. If that's what you call good, honest reporting then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. JMHO but everything out there media-wise is suspect as to whether or not it is truthful. To claim that certain sources are never wrong, never "lie", or are never biased just seems foolish to me.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by anothersteve

Just a few, and the tip of the iceberg I think.
The mainstream media’s lies, and the liars behind them - The Horn News

That's all I'm going to get involved in in this "discussion". I will get banned. I am showing damn good restraint with this.
Steve

Access Denied

The Horn News - Media Bias/Fact Check

All have comments on THE HORN NEWS, and who still are pandering the Clinton sex ring at the Pizza Parlor.

This is news to some and at my age, I just should give up...we are doomed believing such crap from such crap sources

[anothersteve]

Originally Posted by Bucco

Access Denied

The Horn News - Media Bias/Fact Check

All have comments on THE HORN NEWS, and who still are pandering the Clinton sex ring at the Pizza Parlor.

This is news to some and at my age, I just should give up...we are doomed believing such crap from such crap sources

You're funny!
Steve

Originally Posted by Abby10

JMHO but everything out there media-wise is suspect as to whether or not it is truthful. To claim that certain sources are never wrong, never "lie", or are never biased just seems foolish to me.

Totally agree. My point entirely.

[Bucco]

Originally Posted by Abby10

You must have missed a lot going on with the Covington situation. Your posts totally confound me that you didn't see or read the erroneous reporting that occurred over this situation by the media. It is readily available from many sources by just googling it. You are right in the sense that they "cleared it up" but not after printing and airing one-sided, inaccurate information for quite some time. If that's what you call good, honest reporting then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. JMHO but everything out there media-wise is suspect as to whether or not it is truthful. To claim that certain sources are never wrong, never "lie", or are never biased just seems foolish to me.

Still with the social media.

I have been asking directly for an example of media lying...I mean real media..for quite some time and a social media farce that was certainly mishandled by all is it. That is your basi ?

You don't understand you say..,I do not understand....

1. The desire to attack our own media with such a mean spirited attack.

2. The desire to embrace the same media source that you personally called vicious names, but embrace it because it agreed with you.

3. The Need to attack when questioned on why there are attacks being made and accusations being made. You would think you might have actual facts to back up personal and vicious attacks.

4. The ignoring of American citizens of criminal activity at our highest levels, and factually enabling them and applauding them. (By the way, such activity reported and called fake all the way to prison)

5. The attack on media because they want to talk to the issue, and you want to attack them for questions you.

You is generic in every case.

[Bucco]

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[Boomer]

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[Polar Bear]

For me, the problem with media today...not social media, but alleged journalistic media,..is not so much that they lie, but that they relate stories with such extreme bias. They try to pass off editorial reporting as true journalism, which IMO it absolutely is not.

[Big O]

NEVER give credence to any news that starts out( "We have learned from reliable sources.....")

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Even history books get it wrong. To wit: Columbus did NOT discover America. We celebrate Columbus Day every year in the United States, though he never set foot on this continent. His first journey with the Nina/Pinta/Santamaria in 1492 took him to the Bahamas, which was already inhabited. The second one was a return trip. The third was to Trinidad, which again - was already inhabited. His last trip was to Panama.

And yet, we were taught in grade school that we celebrate Columbus Day, because Columbus discovered America. 1) he never set foot in NORTH America, which is the only America implied by the statement, when you're teaching kids in North America about Columbus discovering America. 2) he didn't "discover" anything; these places had already been inhabited by other people.

That's just one fact, yanked out of a myriad of facts we learned in history books in grade school.

[jebartle]

Originally Posted by Abby10

You must have missed a lot going on with the Covington situation. Your posts totally confound me that you didn't see or read the erroneous reporting that occurred over this situation by the media. It is readily available from many sources by just googling it. You are right in the sense that they "cleared it up" but not after printing and airing one-sided, inaccurate information for quite some time. If that's what you call good, honest reporting then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. JMHO but everything out there media-wise is suspect as to whether or not it is truthful. To claim that certain sources are never wrong, never "lie", or are never biased just seems foolish to me.

Which proves my point, use the brain that the good Lord gave us and investigate. BUT that doesn't mean that the press "is the enemy". Thank goodness that we have the press. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.