[janmcn]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

And he will never be safe again.

The same was said about George Zimmerman how many years ago, and as far as we know he's still kicking.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by janmcn

The OP was reminiscing about an incident that happened almost 60 years ago, IMO. Perhaps times and tactics have changed since then.

If Officer Wilson is charged with homicide, his union will make sure that he is well represented, and the police department will probably pay his legal fees.

"A crowd-funding page created for Wilson raised $235,010 from 5,902 people before organizers stopped accepting donations Friday after surpassing their goal of $100,000 in four days. The group then opened a new fundraising page, which already has more than $104,000."

USA Today
5:49 a.m. EDT August 24, 2014

[MarkinMd]

I recently retired as a police sgt with a large police agency. I cant say if the shooting was justified or not as I wasn't there. My hope is the truth comes out regardless of politics or media coverage.
As for shooting to injure and not to kill is something for the movies. As soon as you draw your gun and pull the trigger you are going to be judged as to your justification to use deadly force. I was always trained to "shoot to stop", Unfortunately the "shoot to stop zone" is the same as the kill zone. I feel fortunate that I never had to go through a shooting death investigation.
Again, my main point is simple, find the truth and go from that point on. I only hope that the politicians don't tarnish the investigation either way.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by tomwed

"A crowd-funding page created for Wilson raised $235,010 from 5,902 people before organizers stopped accepting donations Friday after surpassing their goal of $100,000 in four days. The group then opened a new fundraising page, which already has more than $104,000."

USA Today
5:49 a.m. EDT August 24, 2014

It is such a different situation than that of George Zimmerman. This was an officer on duty. And the victim was photographed robbing a store just minutes before he was shot.

Did anyone watch the video tape of the innocent woman shot by police in downtown Orlando? Shots were fired in rapid succession. I know nothing about guns but maybe that is what happened in the Furgeson shooting. Maybe that is what semi automatic means. Does anyone know?

[MarkinMd]

I'm not sure what type gun was used but with a semi-automatic gun you can fire six rounds in under two seconds.

[Happydaz]

Originally Posted by jblum315

Just play classical music over the PA system. The crowds will vanish.

So true!

I read an article a few years ago that they cleared teenagers out of a park by playing classical music. This music is foreign to many people and they do not like the complicated scores and lack of guitars.

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by MarkinMd

I recently retired as a police sgt with a large police agency. I cant say if the shooting was justified or not as I wasn't there. My hope is the truth comes out regardless of politics or media coverage. and go from that point on. I only hope that the politicians don't tarnish the investigation either way.

Thank-you for being a police officer and giving good advice. You're still serving and protecting.

[B767drvr]

[QUOTE Does this photo, reportedly of Michael Brown, really look like a 6'4" 290 lb giant? If so, the man next to him must be nine feet tall.

If that is Brown in the photo, he looks like he is about 5'5". It will be interesting to hear the height and weight of the Ferguson cop.[/QUOTE]

Something smells awfully fishy. An individual (who shall remain nameless) has been on this thread claiming the white police officer killed the black Mr. Brown simply for "walking in the street", yet when shown a photograph of Mr. Brown, Mr or Mrs Nameless picked a small caucasian-looking man as the victim completely overlooking the HUGE black guy in the center of the picture assaulting the store keeper?

[Rags123]

This has nothing to do with the incident that occured, but it has been mentioned on here as well as totally beat to death on the networks about the stark difference in the community and the police force as relates to race.

I decided to do a bit of looking into that....and was lucky as the St Louis Newspaper already did a little bit of research....a few interesting parts of their article..

"About 67 percent of Ferguson’s residents are African-American, but only 7 percent of the city’s commissioned police officers are black.

That lopsided representation, brought to light after a black teen was killed by a white police officer two weeks ago, has city leaders pledging to try harder to improve race relations.

The disparity is common among communities in St. Louis County with significant black populations. Many police departments do not reflect the communities they serve"

"Many reasons for the disparity are given, including difficulty in recruiting black police officers; the lack of interest in policing by minorities; and the changing demographics in North County over the past two decades."

And this fact that the networks do not talk about....I actually had the impression that this problem was years and years and decades old....

"From 1990 to 2010, Ferguson’s African-American population rose by more than 150 percent."

St. Louis County police forces often don't reflect communities : News

Just sharing

[golf2140]

People, do you really think that a police office white or black would shoot someone in broad daylight if he / she didn't feel that they were in the fight of their life. Also what gives the folks who protest the right to burn and loot. Did anyone notice that three police officers were killed today? Where are our political leaders. I'm sorry they were white !!!!

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by B767drvr

[QUOTE Does this photo, reportedly of Michael Brown, really look like a 6'4" 290 lb giant? If so, the man next to him must be nine feet tall.

If that is Brown in the photo, he looks like he is about 5'5". It will be interesting to hear the height and weight of the Ferguson cop.

Something smells awfully fishy. An individual (who shall remain nameless) has been on this thread claiming the white police officer killed the black Mr. Brown simply for "walking in the street", yet when shown a photograph of Mr. Brown, Mr or Mrs Nameless picked a small caucasian-looking man as the victim completely overlooking the HUGE black guy in the center of the picture assaulting the store keeper? [/QUOTE]


There have been a few "fishy" comments on this thread and another. Got to remember we have folks who just like to "play" and stir the pot as much as possible....facts do not apply, just stir the pot.

I think just waiting for the facts and understanding what has happened and why in context is important. As I mentioned earlier a young unarmed white man was killed by a black policeman in Salt Lake City Utah on the same day as this incident. There have been protests about the death but not much about race at all.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by golf2140

People, do you really think that a police office white or black would shoot someone in broad daylight if he / she didn't feel that they were in the fight of their life. Also what gives the folks who protest the right to burn and loot. Did anyone notice that three police officers were killed today? Where are our political leaders. I'm sorry they were white !!!!

There is a cottage industry that is in existence only to be the centerpiece of whatever is happening.


If that industry is disrupted, Sharpton, Jackson, Crump might be out of work or have their influence curtailed.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

And he will never be safe again.

You imply that some black person, or "they" as billethkid, karostay, bay kid, and others call them, will exact some revenge for Brown's death. Perhaps you will present us with one or several cases where the "theys" of our nation have perpetrated a murder of white policeman who had been either cleared or never charged. On the other hand of course there are hundreds or thousands of 20th century deaths of minorities by white mobs, or the KKK without trial to avenge such offenses as talking to a white woman. Those who are born with the benefit of white skin cannot begin to understand how "they" are still routinely treated differently by police than you would be. Driving while black, walking while black, shopping while black..... If there is less respect for cops, that lack of respect may have a big basis in life experience. That the OP suggests the way to take care of riots is to just shoot people sounds like a solution that the worst totalitarian governments would certainly endorse. I am not able to verify his memory of any such shoot to kill order in any online source
Flood Ravages Whole State Causing Many Deaths, Millions In Damage - Courant.com

Frankly the anti-minority postings of way too many on this forum is sickening.. play classical music, hand out job applications, take away their free stuff, undocumented shoppers, posting random photos of black people with guns as they fit your stereotype, shameful, and the reason why black Americans don't trust old white guys to be fair to them. Maybe the next generation will have less bigotry, prejudice, and animus.

[B767drvr]

Originally Posted by blueash

You imply that some black person, or "they" as billethkid, karostay, bay kid, and others call them, will exact some revenge for Brown's death. Perhaps you will present us with one or several cases where the "theys" of our nation have perpetrated a murder of white policeman who had been either cleared or never charged. On the other hand of course there are hundreds or thousands of 20th century deaths of minorities by white mobs, or the KKK without trial to avenge such offenses as talking to a white woman. Those who are born with the benefit of white skin cannot begin to understand how "they" are still routinely treated differently by police than you would be. Driving while black, walking while black, shopping while black..... If there is less respect for cops, that lack of respect may have a big basis in life experience. That the OP suggests the way to take care of riots is to just shoot people sounds like a solution that the worst totalitarian governments would certainly endorse. I am not able to verify his memory of any such shoot to kill order in any online source
Flood Ravages Whole State Causing Many Deaths, Millions In Damage - Courant.com

Frankly the anti-minority postings of way too many on this forum is sickening.. play classical music, hand out job applications, take away their free stuff, undocumented shoppers, posting random photos of black people with guns as they fit your stereotype, shameful, and the reason why black Americans don't trust old white guys to be fair to them. Maybe the next generation will have less bigotry, prejudice, and animus.

Before you fall off your high horse… let me help you down with a step stool.

Genocide Watch

(For those that don't click… it's the CURRENT genocide of whites by blacks in South Africa.)

[Chi-Town]

Just finished watching the final episode of True Blood. And just like the end of the series, this thread needs to meet the True Death.