[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Rags123

For me, the point would be that THIS picture which is accurate is more harmful to the young man than the one that was posted incorrectly, BY FAR

For me, the point would be that a bullet to the head is more harmful to the young man, BY FAR.

[tomwed]

'That's how we're going to move forward together, by trying to unite each other and understand each other and not simply divide ourselves from one another,' Obama told reporters at the White House.

Do you agree?
I do.

[janmcn]

Originally Posted by janmcn

One way to stop rioting and looting is for police officers to stop killing young black men. Brown was picked on for blocking traffic. A NY man was strangled by police for allegedly selling cigarettes.

Hopefully, the Ferguson police officer will soon be charged with homicide by the grand jury hearing this case, as was the NY police officer. Having a police badge does not give anyone a license to kill.

Originally Posted by B767drvr

Of course it does. "To serve and to protect" means exactly that. In the appropriate circumstance, the officer's badge not only "gives" him that license, it DEMANDS he use his weapon. Think about this for a moment if this doesn't make sense to you.

The key words here are 'appropriate circumstance'. When did it become okay to strangle someone for selling cigarettes on the street? When did it become okay to shoot someone five or six times for blocking traffic?

Fortunately, the entire NY incident was caught on tape, and that police officer has already been charged with homicide.

The St Louis grand jury will have all the evidence and facts before making their decision on whether to charge the Ferguson police officer.

IMO the strongest evidence in the Ferguson case will be the three autopsy reports which contain irrefutable evidence of the location of the gunshot wounds and the trajectory of the bullets.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

For me, the point would be that a bullet to the head is more harmful to the young man, BY FAR.

I do not believe there is a single person in the world who does not agree with you.

Problem is that, at least in my opinion, calling the young police officer a killer knowing only the color of his skin and the young mans skin is a bit out of line.

Even the implication is a bit offensive, don't you think ? I mean to call the officer a killer because his skin is white and the victims skin is black with no other facts is a bit racist, wouldn't you think ?

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Rags123

I do not believe there is a single person in the world who does not agree with you.

Problem is that, at least in my opinion, calling the young police officer a killer knowing only the color of his skin and the young mans skin is a bit out of line.

Even the implication is a bit offensive, don't you think ? I mean to call the officer a killer because his skin is white and the victims skin is black with no other facts is a bit racist, wouldn't you think ?

I am waiting just like the rest of us for the answers. I am not sure if it's racially motivated and not calling anyone a killer. In fact, all this speculation is getting a little stale, don't you agree?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by janmcn

The key words here are 'appropriate circumstance'. When did it become okay to strangle someone for selling cigarettes on the street? When did it become okay to shoot someone five or six times for blocking traffic?

Fortunately, the entire NY incident was caught on tape, and that police officer has already been charged with homicide.

The St Louis grand jury will have all the evidence and facts before making their decision on whether to charge the Ferguson police officer.

IMO the strongest evidence in the Ferguson case will be the three autopsy reports which contain irrefutable evidence of the location of the gunshot wounds and the trajectory of the bullets.

Do I remember this correctly that he was asphyxiated, not strangled. Thinking that a number of people laid on him in order to subdue him and caused him to be unable to breathe, rather than to attempt to strangle him around the neck in order to kill him?

Just thought it was so sad. He didn't deserve to die for doing something illegal, just to be arrested.

And the same with Michael Brown. He should have been arrested. But when a person resists arrest, then terrible things can happen, no matter what color you are.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Do I remember this correctly that he was asphyxiated, not strangled. Thinking that a number of people laid on him in order to subdue him and caused him to be unable to breathe, rather than to attempt to strangle him around the neck in order to kill him?

Just thought it was so sad. He didn't deserve to die for doing something illegal, just to be arrested.

And the same with Michael Brown. He should have been arrested. But when a person resists arrest, then terrible things can happen, no matter what color you are.

This entire thing is a shame.

If you violate the law, you will be confronted by the police.. That is their job and a very important job. Once they confront you, either you decide to resist of not. Once you resist, you put your self in another catagory and are asking that police officer to decide how to make you stop resisting. These men are not simply shot down in the street as many would like you to believe. They have put THEMSELVES in harms way.

I boil when I hear people say how men are shot down in the steet by police as if they were simply walking down the street, did nothing...an officer just came across them and decided they should be shot. That is the picture being drawn by so many and is not true.

There are mistakes made by cops...and they should be investigated and handled appropriately but to call a young man a killer is simply non acceptable.

In Utah on August 11, a young white man was shot and killed by a black officer in Salt Lake City. In this case the white man was unarmed and was with two other men. HE was the ONLY one who did not comply with Police orders, but I doubt if you all heard about this.

It is always a shame....but you know what.....if you have violated a law or are in a situation where police have been called, as in Utah, then behave and follow orders..the police do not read minds.

Update: Relatives say man shot, killed by police was not armed | fox13now.com

Black Cop Kills Unarmed White Youth ? Media and Feds Silent

[buggyone]

Seems that selling untaxed cigarettes or walking in the street are now capitol offenses.

Sure, both guys had attitude with the police but is that cause for police to shoot 6 times ending with a shot to the top of the head or to have a choke hold placed for long enough to kill? Neither incident should have happened. At least one cop is charged - maybe a second one soon!

If a cop says to move out of the street, do it. If the person does not move, gives attitude, is it proper to try and slap on cuffs? No. It is no big deal. The cop should have let it go. The cop just wanted to show he was as tough. Well, the cop's life changed in a moment forever - just like Zimmerman's did - and not for the better.

[Rags123]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Seems that selling untaxed cigarettes or walking in the street are now capitol offenses.

Sure, both guys had attitude with the police but is that cause for police to shoot 6 times ending with a shot to the top of the head or to have a choke hold placed for long enough to kill? Neither incident should have happened. At least one cop is charged - maybe a second one soon!

If a cop says to move out of the street, do it. If the person does not move, gives attitude, is it proper to try and slap on cuffs? No. It is no big deal. The cop should have let it go. The cop just wanted to show he was as tough. Well, the cop's life changed in a moment forever - just like Zimmerman's did - and not for the better.

WOW, another who has facts that nobody else has..you guys should get hold of those investigating. Thankfully, they will not rely on media for trial.

If you have contact with police, you follow instructions... That simple.

I, for one,want laws enforced...I, for me,do not want anyone challenging police or punching them, etc.

These people are not being shot by police on a willy billy agenda...they are in a confrontation which if you listen and allow the policeman to judge the situation is a daily and non reported item

As I posted earlier..a white kid got killed by a black cop in Utah...I seems that is fine with all you folks...seems race is the name of the game

[mflasch]

Originally Posted by buggyone

Seems that selling untaxed cigarettes or walking in the street are now capitol offenses.

Sure, both guys had attitude with the police but is that cause for police to shoot 6 times ending with a shot to the top of the head or to have a choke hold placed for long enough to kill? Neither incident should have happened. At least one cop is charged - maybe a second one soon!

If a cop says to move out of the street, do it. If the person does not move, gives attitude, is it proper to try and slap on cuffs? No. It is no big deal. The cop should have let it go. The cop just wanted to show he was as tough. Well, the cop's life changed in a moment forever - just like Zimmerman's did - and not for the better.

Really???? We must have gotten different information. Didn't this guy go after the cop while the cop was still in his car? Didn't this guy "bullrush" the cop when the cop told him to freeze? What would you do after you have been hit in the face and then this 6'4", 290 lb giant comes running at you intent to do more physical harm.
I sound like a busted record, but, again, if both of these idiots would have just complied with the cops instructions, they would be alive today.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by mflasch

Really???? We must have gotten different information. Didn't this guy go after the cop while the cop was still in his car? Didn't this guy "bullrush" the cop when the cop told him to freeze? What would you do after you have been hit in the face and then this 6'4", 290 lb giant comes running at you intent to do more physical harm.
I sound like a busted record, but, again, if both of these idiots would have just complied with the cops instructions, they would be alive today.

I do not understand who you mean by "both of these idiots would have complied with the cops instructions, they would both be alive today"?

As to the first part, I have no idea any more than what has been reported of what actually happened. I have never heard those allegations. Well, maybe that is only one network that is not watched at my house.

[DeanFL]

I just googled about the police killing (Dillon Taylor) in Utah 2 days after the Mike Brown shooting. I must say - my blood is boiling. Where is the national media /Live Media feeds/protests/riots/national guard/"Group Leaders"/DC Attny Gen/etc...Covering THAT?

Oh wait - the racial mix was wrong. Nothing to see or report here. move along.

Even though Taylor was unarmed, did not attack or threaten the officers, and was innocent of anything. No news because he was white - and oh yeah the Officer was black. Only stating this because if the opposite was the case - guess who would have been on planes to Utah to chase that one.
But nope, move along.

And while I'm at it - I was personally offended when that analyst (or such) made the comment on the Golf Channel special about The Villages - and stated something like... "self segregation" by the TV residents (apparently because the white pop is such a high %). Another blood boiler here. Sure, like THAT'S why we invested much of our savings into our new home in TV. grrrr.

OK bedtime here... gotta get the BP down to normal....

[justjim]

From what I hear, Mike Brown not only was a thief but assaulted and intimidated the store clerk and then allegedly punched the Police Officer and tried to Grab his weapon.

It is unfortunate Michael Brown's behavior ended in such a tragedy, however, it's wrong for people to call Officer Wilson a murderer without knowing all the facts.

The looters and arsonist should be found and arrested. Bottom line, nobody should be judged guilty by the media without evidence and complete investigation.

[Bay Kid]

Originally Posted by Pointer

The assumption that the people who are looting don't have jobs is very prejudice. Lacking in integrity would be more accurate.

I am sorry if you think I am prejudice. Maybe I am. I look at the "protestors" and I doubt you will find 10% that work. They protest without knowing the facts, destroying their own neighborhoods and neighbors property. That young man might still be alive if his mother and father had taught him to respect others, just like most of these protestors.

So I guess I am prejudice.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Patty55

OMG, I can't believe I agree with Bill O'Reilly.

I've often said that a lot of today's problems stem from the breakdown of the family, that there are too many absent fathers and exhausted overwhelmed mothers. There are too many "reality" shows where the people speak so poorly they need subtitles. Too much is expected of the school system, values should be taught at home, not the classroom.

Where are the parents of the rioters and looters? We never had such things going on while growing up but I sure know if I ever even thought about such a thing I'd see my Mothers pink hair rollers coming through the crowd and beg the police to shoot me.

Yep, I agree with O'Reilly, does this mean I have to burn my ACLU card?

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