[Taltarzac725]

Vanity 6, "Nasty Girl" (1982) - 15 Great Prince Songs That Were Hits for Other Artists | Rolling Stone

It looks like Prince wrote some of my favorite songs.

He is not one of the celebrities I tried to get involved in the 224 613 Project but there are a large number of people called celebrities whom I tried to get involved in some way. Prince never entered my mind as someone to contact. NFL Commissioners, news anchors, actors, writers, movie directors, other musicians, but not Prince. I regret not trying to get him involved. I write Viking Cheerleaders and not Prince, where is my head?

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Heroin in the Heartland - CBS News

There was a very interesting segment on 60 Minutes about addiction to heroin and drug courts.

We should, though, wait and see what actually killed Prince before passing judgement on him and calling him a drug addict.

I often really need my allergy medicine because of all the pollen here in the Villages which does not make me a drug addict.

I agree with your comments.

In relation to your allergies.....if you were in extreme pain, to what lengths and expense would you go to to control the pain?

Have you never had "one too many drinks"......have you never accidentally taken an overdose of a prescribed pill? Unfortunately, it happens all the time to a lot of people. Well, I think that given the amount of drugs that Prince needed (or felt he needed) to control his pain....he accidentally took one too many and didn't come out of it.

[graciegirl]

I would need a little "Dutch Courage" to get up and perform before multitudes of people. I think that this is the reason that Judy Garland died of addiction. It is not easy to be "on" all of the time, to lose your anonymity, to keep your act and physique fresh, and interesting and keep the public's eye. Many, many, many, many people who are dearly loved entertainers have run into the addiction demon. Robin Williams, another genius.

I believe that Michael Jackson abused children, but there are some of my friends who will argue forever that he was NOT a pedophile. When we love, or adulate, we lose our objectivity.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I would need a little "Dutch Courage" to get up and perform before multitudes of people. I think that this is the reason that Judy Garland died of addiction. It is not easy to be "on" all of the time, to lose your anonymity, to keep your act and physique fresh, and interesting and keep the public's eye. Many, many, many, many people who are dearly loved entertainers have run into the addiction demon. Robin Williams, another genius.

I believe that Michael Jackson abused children, but there are some of my friends who will argue forever that he was NOT a pedophile. When we love, or adulate, we lose our objectivity.

Michael Jackson seemed like someone who never grew up and also someone who did not appreciate consequences of actions. Not really sure if he did molest kids as he just might have been the target of some get rich quick con artists using their kids as leverage to get money in out-of-court settlements. That is just an opinion though.

OJ Simpson probably did get away with murder but the prosecution did not really meet their burden of proof.

[mgjim]

Frankly, I've been taken by surprise over the outpouring of grief over Prince's death. I was not a fan of his music and didn't know much about him despite the fact that I was born and raised in Minnesota and moved back there after my military career ended.

I suppose this public display is not unusual given the state of celebrity worship we are experiencing these days. But then, I'm reminded of the death and funeral of Rudolph Valentino in 1926. I guess everything old is new again.

Anyway, I'm sure Prince's family members and close friends are feeling genuine grief and, for them, I am sympathetic.

[goodtimesintv]

Besides the drug-addict, sick role modeling being promoted, and besides the role modeling of enabler behavior being fed to young people, this whole Prince worship with purple lighting of public buildings is another giant example of the double standard promoted when it is Hollywood-liberal media and marketing in the driver's seat of public, governmental agencies.

People now scream and cry that they are victims, "offended" by public building displays and even the mention of "Christmas". Christian groups are branded "offensive" for placing Christmas displays on/at public buildings and schools and grounds.

So why is it not "offensive" when public buildings and structures, such as the Atlanta City Hall, Birmingham City Hall, Los Angeles City Hall, San Francisco City Hall, the I-35 Bridge in MN, and many other such public structures across the nation celebrate and worship Prince with purple lighting, at significant taxpayer expense!

What the h*ll is wrong with people who cannot see the double standard that is just fine when it is a drug-addict Jehovah's Witness (anti-Christmas) entertainer being celebrated/worshiped on public buildings, but the word 'Christmas' in lights or a nativity scene lit at a public building sends the opposition into a frenzy to punish Christians--with fines and cease/desist orders--in the public courts?????

Think!!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Besides the drug-addict, sick role modeling being promoted, and besides the role modeling of enabler behavior being fed to young people, this whole Prince worship with purple lighting of public buildings is another giant example of the double standard promoted when it is Hollywood-liberal media and marketing in the driver's seat of public, governmental agencies.

People now scream and cry that they are victims, "offended" by public building displays and even the mention of "Christmas". Christian groups are branded "offensive" for placing Christmas displays on/at public buildings and schools and grounds.

So I find it offensive when public buildings and structures, such as the Atlanta City Hall, Birmingham City Hall, Los Angeles City Hall, San Francisco City Hall, the I-35 Bridge in MN, and many other such public structures across the nation celebrate and worship Prince with purple lighting, at significant taxpayer expense!

What the h*ll is wrong with people who cannot see the double standard that is just fine when it is a drug-addict Jehovah's Witness (anti-Christmas) being celebrated/worshiped on public buildings, but the word Christmas in lights or a nativity scene lit at a public building sends the opposition into a frenzy to punish Christians in the courts?????

Think!!

I wonder why this bothers some more than others. I care about your beliefs because they are much like mine, but am not angered by people being entranced with sports figures or performing artists. I think it is a part of our human make up to find our gods and goddesses so to speak.. As a kid I was nuts about June Allyson and as I grow older, my hero's are more figures of science, but I know I am not quite......ummm right.

We all have our own set of values, obtained early and perhaps changed by life experience and not much can shake what we think is right and wrong. I think enjoying performers and public figures is fairly harmless and I think we all do it to some degree. I like the references to Christianity that are here and about in our landscape because of our traditions, but that offends many.

I feel everyday that I walk in a mine field of trying NOT to offend peoples belief's. I just wish that so many things I find innocent didn't have double or triple meanings and we didn't have to watch what we say.

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I wonder why this bothers some more than others. I care about your beliefs because they are much like mine, but am not angered by people being entranced with sports figures or performing artists. I think it is a part of our human make up to find our gods and goddesses so to speak.. As a kid I was nuts about June Allyson and as I grow older, my hero's are more figures of science, but I know I am not quite......ummm right.

We all have our own set of values, obtained early and perhaps changed by life experience and not much can shake what we think is right and wrong. I think enjoying performers and public figures is fairly harmless and I think we all do it to some degree. I like the references to Christianity that are here and about in our landscape because of our traditions, but that offends many.

I feel everyday that I walk in a mine field of trying NOT to offend peoples belief's. I just wish that so many things I find innocent didn't have double or triple meanings and we didn't have to watch what we say.

I edited my post above to say "So why is it not 'offensive' when..." instead of "I" (personally) "find it offensive".

Again, it is the double standard that's being promoted, in favor of the crowd that is usually the quickest to be 'offended' by displays by their political/religious opponents on public property.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Besides the drug-addict, sick role modeling being promoted, and besides the role modeling of enabler behavior being fed to young people, this whole Prince worship with purple lighting of public buildings is another giant example of the double standard promoted when it is Hollywood-liberal media and marketing in the driver's seat of public, governmental agencies.

People now scream and cry that they are victims, "offended" by public building displays and even the mention of "Christmas". Christian groups are branded "offensive" for placing Christmas displays on/at public buildings and schools and grounds.

So why is it not "offensive" when public buildings and structures, such as the Atlanta City Hall, Birmingham City Hall, Los Angeles City Hall, San Francisco City Hall, the I-35 Bridge in MN, and many other such public structures across the nation celebrate and worship Prince with purple lighting, at significant taxpayer expense!

What the h*ll is wrong with people who cannot see the double standard that is just fine when it is a drug-addict Jehovah's Witness (anti-Christmas) entertainer being celebrated/worshiped on public buildings, but the word 'Christmas' in lights or a nativity scene lit at a public building sends the opposition into a frenzy to punish Christians--with fines and cease/desist orders--in the public courts?????

Think!!

The US and MN Constitution forbids promoting one specific religion at the cost of others which probably is why some people get angry when the State promotes Christianity over other religions.

Sec. 16. Freedom of conscience; no preference to be given to any religious establishment or mode of worship.The enumeration of rights in this constitution shall not deny or impair others retained by and inherent in the people. The right of every man to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience shall never be infringed; nor shall any man be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any religious or ecclesiastical ministry, against his consent; nor shall any control of or interference with the rights of conscience be permitted, or any preference be given by law to any religious establishment or mode of worship; but the liberty of conscience hereby secured shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of the state, nor shall any money be drawn from the treasury for the benefit of any religious societies or religious or theological seminaries.
Sec. 17. Religious tests and property qualifications prohibited.No religious test or amount of property shall be required as a qualification for any office of public trust in the state. No religious test or amount of property shall be required as a qualification of any voter at any election in this state; nor shall any person be rendered incompetent to give evidence in any court of law or equity in consequence of his opinion upon the subject of religion.

Article I of the MN Constitution.

The purple on buildings has nothing to do with Prince's religious beliefs as he was a very private person about his religion. That's about his music.

I do not own any of his CDs and probably have not knowingly listened to a song of his in decades.

More about Prince-- Then and Now: Scenes from Purple Rain | Local Current Blog | The Current from Minnesota Public Radio

[goodtimesintv]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The US and MN Constitution forbids promoting one specific religion at the cost of others which probably is why some people get angry when the State promotes Christianity over other religions.

Article I of the MN Constitution.

The purple on buildings has nothing to do with Prince's religious beliefs as he was a very private person about his religion. That's about his music.

I do not own any of his CDs and probably have not knowingly listened to a song of his in decades.

More about Prince-- Then and Now: Scenes from Purple Rain | Local Current Blog | The Current from Minnesota Public Radio

Yeah.

So why is Prince, a highly private and reclusive private-sector figure, celebrated/honored/adored with costly lighting shows at public taxpayer expense, while other public-sector leaders and benefactors are not??

We already know the answer, and it is Hollywood media partisan preferences.

Also, it is mistaken to say Prince "was a very private person about his religion". This article from 2010 below, and many others, told about how he "dazzled fans" when he went out "knocking on doors" as Jehovah's Witness members do.

Knocking on doors of strangers (and children alone at home without an adult present), and persisting with the magazine subscription, is hardly keeping one's religion "private".

Prince 'Freaked Out' Fans When Knocking on Doors as Jehovah's Witness

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[gerryann]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

People often find it difficult to accept criticism of people they admire and identify with. Or people who have been successful doing something that folks admire or have tried to do themselves or something they enjoy very much, or something that they see requires great talent and skill.

What's funny Grace is that I am not a Prince fan. When he passed I wasn't even aware that he was popular during MY younger years.....I remember my kids listening to him. I knew nothing about the man except what has been put out there after his death. What made me upset was this ridiculous comment by "goodtimesinrv"
"What a bunch of losers, idolizing and worshiping a reclusive, gender-conflicted drug addict by lighting up famous buildings around the world, and even the interior of a Delta Airlines passenger flight, in purple."

Who in the heck is he/she to call fans of anyone losers? And calling Prince a gender-conflicted drug addict? He/she obviously knows nothing about Prince. There are a lot of folks who obviously adored him and "goodtimesinrv" has a problem with anyone liking someone that he doesn't. If he/she simply likes to stir the pot...stir it about something that they know something about.

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by goodtimesintv

Yeah.

So why is Prince, a highly private and reclusive private-sector figure, celebrated/honored/adored with costly lighting shows at public taxpayer expense, while other public-sector leaders and benefactors are not??

We already know the answer, and it is Hollywood media partisan preferences.

Also, it is mistaken to say Prince "was a very private person about his religion". This article from 2010 below, and many others, told about how he "dazzled fans" when he went out "knocking on doors" as Jehovah's Witness members do.

Knocking on doors of strangers (and children alone at home without an adult present), and persisting with the magazine subscription, is hardly keeping one's religion "private".

Prince 'Freaked Out' Fans When Knocking on Doors as Jehovah's Witness

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He knocked on doors because his religion tells the members that they want them to.
It WAS kept private. He never spoke of it public,ly. The media never spoke of it.

[redwitch]

1. Prince spoke out frequently against any drug abuse. He must have been in great pain to use Percocet if his private life was even close to his public image, especially given his religion.

2. Autopsy results are not in, so any cause of death is nothing but pure speculation.

3. I doubt Prince was gender conflicted in the least. He was known to have dated and bedded many beautiful women in his younger days. Don't confuse outlandish costumes by entertainers with their personal activities.

Rail as much as you like about the hero-worship and public expense of purple lights, that's reasonable. But get your facts straight About someone before you start calling them names.

[gerryann]

redwitch, you said it better than I.

[Walt.]

Boy... if only we could only gather up 1,999 crying purple doves. Then we could all gather in a field somewhere and release them while crying and giving each other hugs. Of course the media would be called first to witness this sincere outpouring of emotion.

This lightbulb thing is interesting. With bulbs lasting so long someone should sell a set (like crayons) so you could be ready for any occasion. If somebody is kidnapped do you take the bulb out? Do the "Black Lives Matter" folks put in black bulbs and you stumble around in the dark? Hmmm.... if you put a black bulb in a lamp why doesn't the room get dark when you turn it on? Inquiring minds want to know!