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Old 04-26-2013, 05:35 PM
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The sales tax goes to the state in which the buyer takes shipment. It is going to be a nightmare for smaller online businesses. For instance, sales to California would require withholding State tax plus taxes for one of 25 other taxing districts.

As far as fairness goes, online shopper pay shipping which is most often equivalent to the sales tax amount. Parity is already in place. Even when shipping is paid by seller, it is built into the price.

Brick and mortar stores will not see an increase in sales from this. The government may see an increase in income, but those that think the U.S. debt will decrease are dreaming.
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Ebay charges a final value fee on the selling price plus shipping of 10%. Pay pal charges a fee on selling price and shipping of 3% plus $.30 per transaction.
Actually the history of why they charge the selling fee as the total of the bid plus the shipping is simple. People figured out that one way to avoid the fee when it was just based on the bid price was to list an item worth say $50 and list the shipping at $40. Then the winning bid would be only $10 and the seller would pay his 10% of the $10 or a big one dollar. Ebay figured that scam out and made the fee due on the total charge including shipping.
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If it's not clear it's because U may not be a volume online seller, your facts R a bit incorrect.

Amazon and ebay are and will be responsible for sales tax collection where applicable.

I've been doing this since 1997. I really don't wish to debate this with U.
Ebay makes it very clear on its website who is responsible for collection and remittance to the taxing authority of any sales or use tax. It is the seller, not Ebay.
eBay: Member Workshop: Sales Tax, Use Tax

here is what the CEO of EBay has to say:EBay CEO Donahoe: Exempt Small Businesses From Internet Sales Tax

"He cited the case of Colleen Rast, who employs three people in a clothes-selling business in Kallispell, Mont. Under the bill, she who would have to deal with the laws of more than 9,600 tax jurisdictions across the country, he claimed.

“It would create costly paperwork and accounting burdens and subject her to potential audits and litigation from tax collectors in states that are more than 1,000 miles away from where she lives and works,” Donahoe said.


Note he says that Ms Rast has the burden of collecting the tax. Nothing here about Ebay doing anything in regard to tax collection. But I do understand why you don't wish to debate the question. so done
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If you spend 1000 over the internet this will cost you perhaps 70 in taxes. Of course the option would be to get rid of sales taxes and instead increase income taxes. The former is regressive and the later is progressive - some like sales taxes better than income taxes.
what would be wrong with lowering taxes, and cutting spending, just sayin
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what would be wrong with lowering taxes, and cutting spending, just sayin
Most people agree with that simple premise.

It's "what" should be cut...... that causes the problems.

Since Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid and defense spending makes up about 65% of the budget..would you be for cutting those?

It really boils down to whose ox is getting gored.

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Brick and mortar stores collect sales taxes for the government, so why shouldn't the internet do the same? When I had my store in FL, I sold a trailer load of furniture to a man who was going to haul it back to Canada. Did I send those taxes to Canada? No, I sent the tax money to the state of FL.

So I don't understand why it's going to be a nightmare just because there are 50 states. If something is sold out of Florida, internet or otherwise, I would think the tax goes to Florida.

Brick and mortar stores have to compete with internet sales, so I think it's only fair that they both play by the same rules. Those who purchase on the internet should pay their fair share, in my opinion. No more free rides.

And I like the regressive tax aspect of it for the many who don't pay any income tax, and those who get tax credits. At least they will contribute something if they have to pay the sales tax.
If you had shipped the goods for the customer to Canada he would have saved the sales tax. No state sales tax charged on items shipped out of state doesn't matter if it is from a brick and mortar or an internet warehouse . I have managed retail in Hawaii, Washington, Florida, New Hampshire and Kansas and all ship to's sent by the store out of state had no state sales tax collected unless laws were changed recently no tax should be collected unless the person purchased the stuff and shipped it himself. When I had customers buying expensive stuff from me when on vacation I would always figure out the sales tax versus the cost of shipping and give them the option.

Re Sales tax at stores location instead of destination that doesn't work IMHO.
Ok so Amazon has it's offices in Seattle you want to pay 10% tax on all purchases from Amazon. It has a system that ships from whatever warehouse can get it to you the fastest so would the sales tax go to the state that has the warehouse so you wouldn't know what you are paying until the item is shipped. It has to be none or the receipt location (the ship to) that is all that works. Also those of you relating this to national debt sales tax at the regional level has no affect on federal debt. Saying the alternative is state income tax doesn't work as the largest online retailer in the world is in a no income tax state. Or am I missing something
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The fact that we are spending $1.40 for every $1.00 received in revenue means that there shouldn't be any sacred cows in the budget, IMO.
I'll bet you hear a bunch of sacred cow bawling around here, should SS and/or Medicare/Medicaid get cut.

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[QUOTE=OnTrack;668128]I'll bet you hear a bunch of sacred cow bawling around here, should SS and/or Medicare/Medicaid get cut.

I would be in favor of different threshold levels for Social Security retirement benefits based on other income (means qualifications) as well as for Medicare benefits.

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Any idea what kind of animal is in my "avatar")
Lynx?

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Lynx?

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Decent guess - but, no. It is a Red Panda. Photo taken at the Washington DC National Zoo when I volunteered there. Lots of fun on that job.
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