[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Boffin

The slowest way to die is to stay healthy.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Google says this...........

"COVID-19
Common question
Is the coronavirus more contagious than flu?

While COVID-19 and flu viruses are thought to spread in similar ways, COVID-19 is more contagious among certain populations and age groups than flu. Also, COVID-19 has been observed to have more superspreading events than flu."

What "certain groups"?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by donassaid

It's not a vaccine. It's "experimental " gene therapy that has killed hundreds and sickened thousands. All for what? A virus that 99% of people survive. Now who's crazy?

Yeah, no...

If by "experimental", you mean something that has been worked on for decades, then sure, go with that...

[Boffin]

Originally Posted by donassaid

It's not a vaccine. It's "experimental " gene therapy that has killed hundreds and sickened thousands. All for what? A virus that 99% of people survive. Now who's crazy?

People that think the COVID vaccine is experimental gene therapy are, by virtue of that exact way of thinking, ideal candidates for getting that vaccination.

[Nannyof3]

you

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by Robbie0723

COVID-19 cases and deaths are down but rate of infection is the same as it was in December for unvaccinated

COVID-19 cases and deaths are down but rate of infection is the same as it was in December for unvaccinated


Sacramento-area doctor talks about COVID-19 infection rates among unvaccinated

"The Post found that the rate among those unvaccinated is 73% higher than figures being publicized. Their analysis found that in states with high unvaccinated populations, the pandemic is ongoing at the same pace it was during the last surge."

There’s been at least 12,000 vaccinated people who have gotten Covid from articles that I’ve read, and there’s new info coming out that people who take immune suppressant drugs and have been vaccinated are not showing any antibodies to Covid. Apparently people taking those drugs were not part of any clinical studies and it appears that for some number of people it’s as if they’ve not been vaccinated at all -

Covid-19 vaccine: Millions of Americans might not have had an adequate response to shot

More info coming out everyday from the ongoing clinical studies of the vaccinated.

[Ptmckiou]

There is a reason polio was eradicated throughout the world except for two countries now. It’s because everyone took the vaccine. That’s what vaccines do. This is a no brainer. If there is even the slightest of chance of getting Covid (including all its lasting side effects) and getting sick and/or dying vs a 100% guarantee I won’t get sick enough to go to the hospital….which am I going to take? The 100% guarantee which equals taking the vaccine!! Like I said…a no brainer for me.

A bird in the hand….

[FromNY]

Dying is easy. Being a long hauler survivor not so easy. Besides the medical complications there are emotional, financial and life changes that create horrible situations for people. Minimal chance of death. Living with results of even a mild case is a nightmare. The medical professionals world wide are learning how to treat this. Do your part. Wash your hands, consider a vaccine if you have health issues and take care of your body. Once it is damaged your time is decreased. For some they may not care for others maybe they want to live to see another grandchild?

[Billy1]

Jon Rahm's million dollar pay day just died because of covid19. Think smart.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by tsmall22204

Ok, you are one of those who resist the vaccine. I don't care about your health if you don't. Get sick and die, get sick and recover, I really don't care. You have made your choice.

A key reason to get vaccinated is to protect others but bottom line is something like 20% of the population puts themselves first.

Doubt they will decline treatment if infected.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Swoop

With the current seven day average of Covid coded deaths in the US, and based on the CDC numbers, the chances of dying with Covid are about equal to your chances of dying from a stroke. You have a greater chance of dying in an accident than dying with Covid. And you are 4X more likely to die from cancer and 4.5X more likely to die from heart disease.

Not sure of the point.

We tend to think to ignore reality. No one gets out alive. That does not mean it is wise to step onto the highway or in front of a moving train.

[toeser]

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan

The actual number surrounding the COVID pandemic will not be "known" probably for decades. Scientists are still debating the numbers from the Spanish Flu. It is an easy thing to evaluate. There are many complicating factors, one of which is the cause of death determination, which many here repeatedly mention.

We can be fairly sure of how many people died with COVID. But even that number is not appearing to be significantly underreported. And then of course there are the long haulers - who we are just now learning about.

One interesting unexpected side effect is two variants of the seasonal flu appear to be eliminated as a result of people wearing masks and social distancing.

"If they don't know the actual number of deaths now (and they don't), they won't know it in decades either.

[Ptmckiou]

Originally Posted by donassaid

It's not a vaccine. It's "experimental " gene therapy that has killed hundreds and sickened thousands. All for what? A virus that 99% of people survive. Now who's crazy?

Where have you been? This gene therapy has been worked on for over 15 years. They are able to use it now on most any type of vaccine which is a game changer in science. They have had entire documentaries interviewing the scientists that have been working on the gene therapy for decades.

They also have interviewed many people that were in the initial 30,000+ vaccine pipeline following their progress, NO! There was not hundreds killed and thousands sickened. There is zero proof to that statement.

Conspiracy theories are so unbecoming…. Btw, 1% of the USA population is 3.5 million people….that would be considered a devastating historical amount of death, by any historical data.

[Altavia]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Daycare was one of the first things to reopen... Well before the vaccine was available...

And Covid being more infectious? Possibly... But not enough to get those ridiculously low flu numbers...

My grandchildren just started back and are now bringing sniffles home to mom and dad so we'll see.

Agree the seemingly disappearance of several strains of the flu would take more than masks and handwashing to eliminate.

[Glennjy]

Everyone can say what they want about Covid but the fact remains that people have died from it and continue to die from it. I know, my mother died from Covid in December just before Christmas alone in the hospital.
So your stats don't mean anything to me.