[KYtoTV2021]

At it's worst.......Covid death rate was 0.3% -- that is 3 out of every 1,000 who contracted covid.
The (annual) flu has a death rate of about 0.1%

So, if you had a 33% chance of contracting covid (by taking virtually NO precautions), you had about a one in 1,000 chance of a fatal situation. Choice: one in 1,000 chance of lethal covid or 100% chance of 'cabin fever'.
Everyone has their own perspective. For me, I am not going to hunker down in my bunker and shiver in fear.

[Mohawksin]

Originally Posted by Swoop

With the current seven day average of Covid coded deaths in the US, and based on the CDC numbers, the chances of dying with Covid are about equal to your chances of dying from a stroke. You have a greater chance of dying in an accident than dying with Covid. And you are 4X more likely to die from cancer and 4.5X more likely to die from heart disease.

Check this out from Illinois

Why and how COVID-19 deaths are tracked in Illinois | Top Stories | wandtv.com

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by KYtoTV2021

At it's worst.......Covid death rate was 0.3% -- that is 3 out of every 1,000 who contracted covid.
The (annual) flu has a death rate of about 0.1%

So, if you had a 33% chance of contracting covid (by taking virtually NO precautions), you had about a one in 1,000 chance of a fatal situation. Choice: one in 1,000 chance of lethal covid or 100% chance of 'cabin fever'.
Everyone has their own perspective. For me, I am not going to hunker down in my bunker and shiver in fear.

How old are you?? I am 81. My risk of dying from it, should I have gotten sick from it were as seen. MUCH MUCH Greater than a younger person.

However I have been vaccinated and I am not likely to die from it at all. I will continue with my hell raising life.

Risk for COVID-19 Infection, Hospitalization, and Death By Age Group | CDC

[Leadbone1]

Originally Posted by Swoop

With the current seven day average of Covid coded deaths in the US, and based on the CDC numbers, the chances of dying with Covid are about equal to your chances of dying from a stroke. You have a greater chance of dying in an accident than dying with Covid. And you are 4X more likely to die from cancer and 4.5X more likely to die from heart disease.

Daughter-in-law works as a registered nurse in a large hospital in Ohio. Works in a hospice area. Said almost every cause of death was listed as Covid, despite the fact that everyone of those people was already in hospice dying of something else? Bottom line, the number of covid deaths being put forth in this country is totally bogus. The real number is probably less than half of what we are being told!

[Swoop]

Originally Posted by Mohawksin

Check this out from Illinois

Why and how COVID-19 deaths are tracked in Illinois | Top Stories | wandtv.com

That why I worded my post “died with Covid” vs “died from Covid”...

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by Ptmckiou

There is a reason polio was eradicated throughout the world except for two countries now. It’s because everyone took the vaccine. That’s what vaccines do. This is a no brainer. If there is even the slightest of chance of getting Covid (including all its lasting side effects) and getting sick and/or dying vs a 100% guarantee I won’t get sick enough to go to the hospital….which am I going to take? The 100% guarantee which equals taking the vaccine!! Like I said…a no brainer for me.

A bird in the hand….

... is worth 2 in the bush. Is it? IMHO, it depends on what else is hiding in the bush. And we don't yet know.

Your decision is absolutely a good one.... FOR YOU.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

Daughter-in-law works as a registered nurse in a large hospital in Ohio. Works in a hospice area. Said almost every cause of death was listed as Covid, despite the fact that everyone of those people was already in hospice dying of something else? Bottom line, the number of covid deaths being put forth in this country is totally bogus. The real number is probably less than half of what we are being told!

I am extremely skeptical about this undocumented hearsay.

I personally know of six people who were very sick with Covid and know of four people who died. One who said things just like you are saying. He rode his bike around the neighborhood. He died within six days of getting sick.

I ask you and your daughter in law, what would be the reason for saying someone died of Covid when they did not. Do not say money. These people had relatives. Do you think I would let someone say my mother died of Covid when she had a malignant brain tumor? It just doesn't make sense. It is another conspiracy theory. People died of Covid. Hospitals didn't get more money if they died of Covid. That is pure foolishness and it makes me really mad.

[Ele201]

That’s interesting. People are different and may react differently to the vaccine. Some are on medications that may react adversely to the vaccine. When it came out, there wasn’t a lot of time for testing because we were in an emergency situation. I’m glad that we got the vaccine.

[tuccillo]

The CDC website has the number of excess deaths. This is the number of deaths above what would normally be expected. Since COVID-19 was the extraordinary event of 2020, a high percentage of the excess deaths can be attributed either directly or indirectly to COVID-19. Some estimates have 80% of the excess deaths due to COVID-19. The reason to look at excess deaths is because the cause of each death, as reported on a death certificate, doesn't matter to the number.

Originally Posted by Leadbone1

Daughter-in-law works as a registered nurse in a large hospital in Ohio. Works in a hospice area. Said almost every cause of death was listed as Covid, despite the fact that everyone of those people was already in hospice dying of something else? Bottom line, the number of covid deaths being put forth in this country is totally bogus. The real number is probably less than half of what we are being told!

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am extremely skeptical about this undocumented hearsay.

I personally know of six people who were very sick with Covid and know of four people who died. One who said things just like you are saying. He rode his bike around the neighborhood. He died within six days of getting sick.

I ask you and your daughter in law, what would be the reason for saying someone died of Covid when they did not. Do not say money. These people had relatives. Do you think I would let someone say my mother died of Covid when she had a malignant brain tumor? It just doesn't make sense. It is another conspiracy theory. People died of Covid. Hospitals didn't get more money if they died of Covid. That is pure foolishness and it makes me really mad.

There really is proof that many deaths were labeled "died WITH Covid."
I have two family members that "died WITH Covid." One was in the hospital for a heart operation (another one of many) and he died on the operating table. Cause= with covid. At the same time, another was in the hospital for kidney problems and dialysis treatment. He developed respiration difficulty, was put on a respirator and eventually passed. Cause= died "with" covid.
Did they die BECAUSE of covid? Who knows? Would they have died anyway? Who knows. It does make for a good excuse at those hospitals, doesn't it?
Money can and has corrupted many good people throughout history. Blame and excuses have always been prevalent since Adam and Eve.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by KYtoTV2021

At it's worst.......Covid death rate was 0.3% -- that is 3 out of every 1,000 who contracted covid.
The (annual) flu has a death rate of about 0.1%

So, if you had a 33% chance of contracting covid (by taking virtually NO precautions), you had about a one in 1,000 chance of a fatal situation. Choice: one in 1,000 chance of lethal covid or 100% chance of 'cabin fever'.
Everyone has their own perspective. For me, I am not going to hunker down in my bunker and shiver in fear.

What is your source for that 0.3% number? The numbers on the Johns Hopkins Covid page have shown the mortality rate at a fairly steady 1.5% for quite some time.

[Joe C.]

Does anyone really care anymore? Really? Looks like someone is beating a dead horse.

[Becca9800]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I am extremely skeptical about this undocumented hearsay.

... what would be the reason for saying someone died of Covid when they did not. Do not say money. These people had relatives. Do you think I would let someone say my mother died of Covid when she had a malignant brain tumor? It just doesn't make sense. It is another conspiracy theory. People died of Covid. Hospitals didn't get more money if they died of Covid. That is pure foolishness and it makes me really mad.

Well the ante was definitely upped where there was a diagnosis of Covid. An increase of 20% was at play., so def not pure foolishness. Hospitals though do not sign death certificates, which list the cause of death, physicians do. https://www.cms.gov/files/document/se20015.pdf. But why must it be a conspiracy theory bc one thinks it was all about the money? You don't believe there's greed out there? It makes me really mad to constantly read such garbage associated w a difference of opinion.

There are plenty of relatives fighting their loved one's listed cause of death. Duck Duck Go "dying with covid v dying from covid". You might be surprised. Here's a good one to get you going- Dying with COVID and dying from COVID are same thing in Oregon | kgw.com. Should all anecdotal information be disbelieved bc we don't like the way it makes us feel? OR should we look a little closer?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

It is FAR less deadly to young people.
It is FAR less deadly to young people.

They may think it hurts or it costs them something. They may think they need insurance. They may think it hurts. Some people are terribly afraid of anything medical.

Everyone in my entire family who can get vaccinated, has been vaccinated. You seem proud of your children and grandchildren? I am proud of mine.

I RESPECT their choice, even if I do not necessarily agree with their reasoning. However, even if I believe in vaccinations I will not push them. If I turn out to be wrong and there really IS a possible repercussion(s) to the vaccine, I won't feel guilty for pushing them to do something that may be harmful or even fatal. I am not suggesting that there is the possibility, just allowing them to make their own decision without my intimidation or coercion. And yes, I am pretty proud of how decent they have turned out.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Google says this...........

"COVID-19
Common question
Is the coronavirus more contagious than flu?

While COVID-19 and flu viruses are thought to spread in similar ways, COVID-19 is more contagious among certain populations and age groups than flu. Also, COVID-19 has been observed to have more superspreading events than flu."

Yes, and now we know from Dr. Fauci's e-mails that the Wuhan Institute Covid studies of Gain of Function (COVID transfer to humans) was funded by Fauci at the NIH. Fauci used over $7,000,000 of our taxpayer dollars to research transfer of COVID to humans. Now we know the first cases of COVID were research staff in the Wuhan Institute. Fauci received e-mail information about the gain of function from other US researchers but ignored it. Dr. Fauci has already admitted he lied about some of the aspects of COVID transmittal as well as the times he changed his advice about masking, being with others, travel etc.