[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Byte1

Interesting question. Another question or observation is:

I go shopping where I am distanced from others and constantly moving along, never near one person longer than passing them. I am wearing a mask. A mask that I really doubt does that good, but it gives one security like a kid's "blankie." On the other hand, we go to a restaurant and no wears a mask and usually sits in one place for over an hour. I have no problem with either scenario, but it does bring up the question as to why some will cry if they see someone pass them in a store without a mask, and then leave the store and sit in a restaurant without a mask on. And please don't insult peoples intelligence by assuring everyone that you wear a mask in the restaurant.

Why do some where them and some don't? Like others have suggested, some don't think it does any good. Some don't care and do not feel they will catch the virus, and some wear one thinking that they are wearing a biohazard suit and will be perfectly safe.
Wear one or don't wear one, I am not going to bother you either way.

Restaurants are one establishment where social distancing is guaranteed if the tables are spaced out properly. I will not give any restaurant my business unless they follow the CDC guidelines and that includes all their employees wear masks.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

I wear mask to protect me, if it protect you so be it. And in 8 weeks new travelers will start the spread again. Let’s face it , it will be very long time before we don’t have to wear masks? There not going to be vaccine anytime soon.

Dr. Fauci stated he is cautiously optimistic there will be a vaccine by the end of 2020 or no later than the first quarter of 2021. That is very soon if you ask me.

[WayneChar]

Wearing a mask is such an easy thing to do to help this country get out of a MESS!

[ismatta]

Originally Posted by Jeff5115

Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

They are sheep, and easily manipulated. Clearly it’s in their own self interest to wear a mask to avoid contracting a virus that no one on earth has immunity to. You often hear these people repeating the lies they are fed, like it’s just like the flu. No, it’s not like the flu and it’s orders of magnitude more transmissible and deadly than the flu. They are confused, and have been gaslighted into believing the lies that have been used to others advantage. To save your own life, and perhaps that of your family members, it’s such a small inconvenience to deal with. The government insists you have to have a license to drive a car, you have to wear a seatbelt, you have to pay your taxes, we are a nation of rules. I don’t understand how people can, with a straight face, complain that their freedom and rights as an American citizen are being violated in a heinous way by being asked to wear a mask to save their own life, the lives of their family, our country and the economy. Really? Your so delicate that you can’t handle wearing a mask when you go shopping, or to a store? Seriously? My kids acted out the same way, of course they were 9 and 10 years old at the time. People, suck it up and do the right thing for the USA. Oh yes, stop whining.

[EdFNJ]

I really can't believe with what is currently going on in our country with this virus (especially here in FL) that we have this same "mask" discussion over and over. and over. WEAR THE F'IN MASK for heaven's sake. Geez, what's the matter with (some of) you people. I just don't get it. Suck it up and put on your grown up pants. Eventually the current increase in cases is going to find it's way up here and burst our bubble.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by EdFNJ

I really can't believe with what is currently going on in our country with this virus (especially here in FL) that we have this same "mask" discussion over and over. and over WEAR THE F'IN MASK for heaven's sake. Geez, what's the matter with (some of) you people. I just don't get it. Suck it up and put on your grown up pants. Eventually the current increase in cases is going to find it's way up here and burst our bubble.

Yup. My parent's town (also in Florida) just imposed a curfew after 100 people died in their county 2 days ago. I'm supposed to go there to visit them this week and I, the one person in the family who is always immune to EVERYTHING - am nervous about the visit.

[Altavia]

Another solution would be to negative pressure interior rooms and increase the fresh air exchange/purification rate within buildings. OSHA recommends 6 air changes per hour for hospital biohazard environments.

Effectively make inside air quality as close to outside air as possible.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Martian

I like to think that in days gone by, people would have looked to the government to provide solid consistent guidance in what we should do in the pandemic.

At this point, I think that the advice would have been something like, "This is a new virus and the science is not clear about what to do and how to minimize the risk. Therefore, in the meantime, while we research and develop methods to control or stop the spread of the virus, here are the things we currently think should be done".

Instead, in today's political environment we are bombarded with misinformation - from BOTH sides - leaving everyone confused as to just what should and should not be done. One day a scientist is hailed as the voice of reason and sound guidance, then suddenly he is a liar and everything he said for the past 7 months is a lie. Seriously?

So, things like wearing a mask, become a political dog whistle, instead of an inexpensive thing that can be done easily by everyone to at least help - not cure, not solve, not make the virus go away. Just help. You know, Americans helping Americans. If we can do enough things to HELP maybe more of us will get through this alive.

But, not today, not with the hate and division. Just this week a person not wearing a mask in a Walmart was confronted and in response pulled a gun on the person telling them to put on a mask. Seriously, threaten to kill someone over wearing a mask?

I suggest everyone take a deep breath and maybe, just maybe stop calling the other side terrorists and traitors.

Maybe if every time you feel the urge to call someone a derogatory name, you substitute American - and see if that might just help tone down the vitriolic rhetoric? And let's give this "America Love it or Leave It" dog whistle a rest. This is America, we are Americans. One of the things that have ALWAYS made America great was that we could disagree with each other, but still be Americans first and Republican or Democrat, or Conservative or Liberal second.

The government can’t protect you, you have to do it. Federal government late place I’d look for guidance regardless which party in charge.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Fauci has been saving lives for 40 years in government. But, advice to NOT wear a mask has killed thousands of Americans. And why? To please Russia? To raise prices on PPEs and ventilators? And the DPA could have saved more lives. Please rethink.

Wow, just WOW!

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Dr. Fauci stated he is cautiously optimistic there will be a vaccine by the end of 2020 or no later than the first quarter of 2021. That is very soon if you ask me.

It’s feel good guess! Many others have said not going to happen that quick.

[ffresh]

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[JimJohnson]

If someone is asymptomatic and goes out in public without a mask, they are more likely to cause suffering or death than a drunk that drives his car or golf cart to the grocery to pick up a case of beer. To deny simple added protection to others By wearing a mask is showing respect. Not to wear one is incredibly selfish.

[maggie1]

Originally Posted by Buckeye Boy

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

So, I gather by your post that you will run the risk of coming in contact with the virus, and either escape unharmed, or recover from it, instead of becoming one of the nearly 200K that have ended up in a body bag. Faulty logic! You can go ahead and believe your six "in the know" doctors who say it is highly unlikely that you can catch the virus a second time, but when I hear other docs say that you can catch it, or they don't know if it can be caught again, I say. why run the risk? Wear a freaking mask, and make us all feel a little bit better that you appear to be taking this pandemic to be a serious threat.

[Heyitsrick]

For all the banter here about masks, are there really significant numbers of people in TV who are not masking?

Here's the Johns Hopkins Sumter County COVID-19 Stat Map:

Sumter County COVID-19 Statistics

Population: 121,000

Total confirmed COVID cases: 757

COVID-attributed deaths: 19

Population age 65+: 67,271

Population UP TO age 34: 19,384

Fatality rate per population: ~.6%

Fatality rate per confirmed cases: 2.51%

I read an anecdotal report from someone here in this thread who stated that in their observation - as a grocery store worker - teenagers and 20ish people are more vigilant about wearing masks, and if there are those who are not wearing them, they are most likely to be seniors.

I found this quite curious - given that seniors make up the overwhelming percentage of the population around TV, why wouldn't it follow that one might see more seniors without masks than young people? That's a given, based on numbers alone.

I wear masks, period. But as to "why" some might push back - notwithstanding whether it's smart or responsible - you might want to look at political decisions that mandated all manner of restrictions due to COVID-19, but somehow gave a pass to thousands upon thousands of protest marchers around the country. That civil right, as we were told, was too important to ignore. It was more important than people's actual lives.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Restaurants are one establishment where social distancing is guaranteed if the tables are spaced out properly. I will not give any restaurant my business unless they follow the CDC guidelines and that includes all their employees wear masks.

How does "social distancing" keep you from inhaling the virus in a closed area? If that's the case, then social distancing in a grocery store would work even better than sitting in one place such as a restaurant. Funny how there is always some "explanation" to fit the scenario, for whatever suits those that wish to debate. So called "specialists" are saying that being outside is "safer" and a mask is not necessary (if social distancing). Being in Walmart, you are in a large area and should be safer than if you are in a small restaurant. I am asking this because it is interesting to hear the "experts" on here with their explanation that suits their agenda/demands.

I am amused because even though I wear a mask when shopping, I have not worn a mask at a restaurant since they reopened, and I eat out at least once a week.

By the way, I have a relative that is in ICU wearing a respirator fighting for his life, virus infected. He ALWAYS wore a mask and has not been around anyone that has tested positive, other than when he visited a relative in the hospital that tested negative. The patient was not in the hospital for virus related illness. The only way this relative could have contracted the virus is by visiting in the hospital, if wearing a mask kept him safe before the visit. He was not around any crowds and shopped curbside, and had no visitors to his home and did not visit anyone else except family that all tested negative after he was infected.