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Old 07-17-2020, 03:40 PM
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Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?
They are arrogant, insensitive and uncaring jerks!
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:45 PM
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Am with more than 100 people who are exposed to Covid, more than 12 hours a day.

Even with a 95, plus surgical mask, plus full face shield,
And two gowns 2 hats, boots and double glove, who are healthy get virus, recover, and go right back to the same.

Most do not feel they are heroes, that distinction is for those who serve and protect. We are just doing a job.

Does a mask make me feel safe ....NO

Watching those who Wear masks, but incorrectly makes me think they should have saved that mask for those who really need it.
Not feeling like a hero doesn't mean you aren't one. Certainly all those who willingly put themselves in harms way to serve and protect others, like the military, police, fire personnel and others. But there are the ones who take on the less obvious tasks, like the doctors and nurses who deal with life and death situations every day, putting themselves in harms way while they deal as best they can with things like Covid and exposing themselves day after day in the hope of saving lives.
No, you don't have to be Rambo to be a hero. Courage isn't the lack of fear. Courage is doing what needs to be done in spite of the fear. You and your colleagues just might be herons and not know it.
Stay safe. Stay well. Look in the mirror and you just might see a hero looking back. Peace!
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Old 07-17-2020, 03:45 PM
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How about wearing a mask is better than no mask.....

Everybody wearing a mask will have more effect on spreading than only half or less of us wearing a mask.

The argument always seems to go back to particle size and the nano bits that will get through.

Anti maskers want to measure to the 10th decimal place when all we need for improvement is to think in whole numbers.

It remains a mystery why so many want to ignore the facts that every little bit helps!!!
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:15 PM
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From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊
I may be wrong since I’m not an epidemiologist. However, it’s my understanding asymptomatic people can in fact spread the virus. Just because they don’t have symptoms doesn’t mean they can’t spread it. I would suggest you do some more research and I will do the same. 😊
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:32 PM
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Interesting question. Another question or observation is:

I go shopping where I am distanced from others and constantly moving along, never near one person longer than passing them. I am wearing a mask. A mask that I really doubt does that good, but it gives one security like a kid's "blankie." On the other hand, we go to a restaurant and no one wears a mask and usually sits in one place for over an hour. I have no problem with either scenario, but it does bring up the question as to why some will cry if they see someone pass them in a store without a mask, and then leave the store and sit in a restaurant without a mask on. And please don't insult peoples intelligence by assuring everyone that you wear a mask in the restaurant.

Why do some wear them and some don't? Like others have suggested, some don't think it does any good. Some don't care and do not feel they will catch the virus, and some wear one thinking that they are wearing a biohazard suit and will be perfectly safe.
Wear one or don't wear one, I am not going to bother you either way.
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Old 07-17-2020, 04:33 PM
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I think part of the reason is there is so much conflicting information out there. The latest information coming out is that masks are not that effective. Stopping the virus from going through the mask is like using a chain link fence to stop a flee. Their saying right now the most effective way to avoid getting the virus is constant hand washing.
Where did you get that information? From every actual expert I’ve listened to or read, state that masks will help.
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Old 07-17-2020, 06:11 PM
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From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it. And thank you so much for the way you posted this 😊
My research claims asymptomatic and presymptomatic people most certainly do shed virus and can infect people. Here is just one article to support this.....
Can people spread the coronavirus if they don't have symptoms? 5 questions answered about asymptomatic COVID-19

As for your concerns about mask wearing being dangerous, I have read many articles stating there is no danger to anyone who is healthy. Health care workers wear masks for hours on end and have had no ill effects to their respiratory status. If you are so concerned that mask wearing is detrimental to your health, wear a face shield.
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Old 07-17-2020, 06:15 PM
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Well, here’s a conversation opener:
We closed for 2 months. Then we reopened in phases. Some states never really reopened. Over @ 40 days of protesting. Now, slowly closing phases or some states closing down again. Now, it’s 4-8 weeks of ... to “slow the spread”......
What happens if, CHINA , exposes people in their country and sends it out again and again?.... Are we just going to let our country be totally destroyed?
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Old 07-17-2020, 06:17 PM
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Where did you get that information? From every actual expert I’ve listened to or read, state that masks will help.
Lockdown and masks vs no lockdown and masks...actual results

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Old 07-17-2020, 06:58 PM
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People need to stop being so judgmental. I can't wear a mask because of a panic disorder. If I feel like I can't breathe it will trigger a panic attack. If you see me without a mask it is not because I don't care about you or am being discourteous, it's because of a medical condition. If you feel your mask is protecting you then you should have no issue with me. I keep my distance from you and I wash my hands all the time. Don't talk to me to cause me to expel droplets. I am trying to live my life as safely as I can without spreading germs. Please show respect for others, who can't for medical reasons, wear a mask. (FYI- according to the ADA you can't ask people with medical conditions to prove it. It's illegal)
Would a face shield be an alternative to a mask for you?
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People that have medical reasons should not be required to wear masks, but then would think they would find alternatives to putting others at risks. Masks don't protect me, they protect you. A sudden need to cough or sneeze is mitigated with a mask....if you can't wear one then help us all and find alternatives. Ask a spouse, ask a friend, order online......or something else to help us all.
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Old 07-17-2020, 07:39 PM
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From what I understand from researching it, asymptomatic people do not shed the virus. So my not wearing a mask is not hurting anyone else. However, wearing a mask does reduce the wearer’s oxygen intake up to 60%, increases the risk of CO2 poisoning, contaminants sit inside the mask and are re-inhaled, and besides all that...breathing fresh air is vital to immune health. So I don’t wear a mask because I don’t believe it protects others and it hurts the one who wears it.
I'll say this as gently as I can. You are wrong. And posting such misinformation is bad for public health and disease prevention. Your research is not correct. You need to be reading more scientific and fewer political websites. If you are actually interested you may PM me and I will reply with several accurate up to date references.

Wearing a mask does not reduce your oxygen intake up to 60%. The wearer would drop like a rock in a matter of minutes. Surgeons and OR nurses would be unable to work. A simple google search would completely debunk your false beliefs about the danger of masks
Just google What is the effect of masks on oxygen and carbon dioxide and read the hits.

You are free to "believe" what you want. Your beliefs are not science based and are only being pushed on right wing conspiracy theory websites and media. Fortunately you can take the opportunity to read the truth on other sources.
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I think part of the reason is there is so much conflicting information out there. The latest information coming out is that masks are not that effective. Stopping the virus from going through the mask is like using a chain link fence to stop a flee. Their saying right now the most effective way to avoid getting the virus is constant hand washing.
If the "latest information" is that masks are not effective, why are more and more stores mandating them not to mention cities being mandating for people to wear masks? I would not trust your information. Can you provide a link please or is this information you received from a news source?

The virus is microscopic. That is so tiny, 10,000 of these viruses can fit on the head of a pin. Of course the virus can easily pass through fabric or paper masks. BUT.....the virus is contained in droplets and each droplet can contain thousands of these microscopic viruses. It is the droplets that are blocked by masks. So......think of the virus in a droplet as a basketball trying to get through a chain link fence. Understand now?

Constant hand washing is OK but not necessary, IMHO. Rather than scrubbing the skin off your hands or constantly drenching your hands in hand sanitizer, the more effective practice for you to do is......DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE. The reason for the "constant hand washing" is so you don't touch your possibly virus contaminated hands to your eyes, nose or mouth. When you don't touch your face, even if you have virus on your hands, you will not infect yourself with the virus.
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Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?
I wear mask to protect me, if it protect you so be it. And in 8 weeks new travelers will start the spread again. Let’s face it , it will be very long time before we don’t have to wear masks? There not going to be vaccine anytime soon.
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People that have medical reasons should not be required to wear masks, but then would think they would find alternatives to putting others at risks. Masks don't protect me, they protect you. A sudden need to cough or sneeze is mitigated with a mask....if you can't wear one then help us all and find alternatives. Ask a spouse, ask a friend, order online......or something else to help us all.
If I had medical problem (more likely lung issue cause I can’t breath) I Da— sure would want to wear mask even it I had to put it over oxygen tube.
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