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Lesson learned --- do not text in movie theater
Yes, and if someone tells you to stop, stop and take it out to the lobby. Don't throw popcorn in the person's face.

Everyone wonders what would have or could have been if the retired captain didn't have a gun. How about asking what would have happened if the nasty texter had just stopped being nasty. Sometimes bad things happen to people who are nasty.

And the retired captain, 71, had been retired for over 20 years. He, like many other retired people, may have been taking multiple prescription drugs which may have impaired his judgement. He might have been taking drugs for depression but, then again, nothing would have happened if the popcorn-jerk had stopped being a jerk.
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According to the news, this is the second incident involving Curtis in the last three weeks.
Florida Movie Theater Shooting Update: Curtis Reeves Had A Movie Incident 3 Weeks Ago : News : Headlines & Global News
An incident where she made him feel uncomfortable by texting and when he "glarred" at her, she felt uncomfortable too. Then, because she felt guilty, she imagined that he was following her.

Can you imagine her testimony in court?

Lawyer: What exactly happened that day?

Woman: Well, I was texting and he glared at me.

Lawyer: How did you know he was looking at you? Did you look at him because you thought you might be bothering him?

Woman: All I know is that every time I looked at him, he was looking at me.

Lawyer: Who looked first?

Woman: He did! He wouldn't let me text in peace. What is this world coming to when you can't text in a movie theater without someone looking at you?

That would be very damning testimony.
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Yes, and if someone tells you to stop, stop and take it out to the lobby. Don't throw popcorn in the person's face.

Everyone wonders what would have or could have been if the retired captain didn't have a gun. How about asking what would have happened if the nasty texter had just stopped being nasty. Sometimes bad things happen to people who are nasty.

And the retired captain, 71, had been retired for over 20 years. He, like many other retired people, may have been taking multiple prescription drugs which may have impaired his judgement. He might have been taking drugs for depression but, then again, nothing would have happened if the popcorn-jerk had stopped being a jerk.
...and someone being rude to you is reason to kill them?
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[QUOTE=Villages PL;812485]Yes, and if someone tells you to stop, stop and take it out to the lobby. Don't throw popcorn in the person's face.

Everyone wonders what would have or could have been if the retired captain didn't have a gun. How about asking what would have happened if the nasty texter had just stopped being nasty. Sometimes bad things happen to people who are nasty.

And the retired captain, 71, had been retired for over 20 years. He, like many other retired people, may have been taking multiple prescription drugs which may have impaired his judgement. He might have been taking drugs for depression but, then again, nothing would have happened if the popcorn-jerk had stopped being a jerk.[/QUOTE]

Like getting killed? Wow!
So we just go off and kill jerks? Wow!
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Yes, and if someone tells you to stop, stop and take it out to the lobby. Don't throw popcorn in the person's face.

Everyone wonders what would have or could have been if the retired captain didn't have a gun. How about asking what would have happened if the nasty texter had just stopped being nasty. Sometimes bad things happen to people who are nasty.

And the retired captain, 71, had been retired for over 20 years. He, like many other retired people, may have been taking multiple prescription drugs which may have impaired his judgement. He might have been taking drugs for depression but, then again, nothing would have happened if the popcorn-jerk had stopped being a jerk.
WOW! I am sure the killer hopes you and eleven more like you, are on the jury. Jerk? Seriously, jerk? Well the killer certainly has stopped him from being a "popcorn-jerk". That popcorn can burn if it hits you in the eye!
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Ex-cop challenged woman over texting in SAME movie theater just three weeks ago it emerges as lawyer claims retired cop had 'every right to defend himself and felt threatened' after victim threw popcorn in heated row | Mail Online


My brother and my sister-in-law and I drove by this Cobb Theater which is on the west side of I-75 near Wesley Chapel. http://www.groveshopping.com/directions/

I cannot think up any means of preventing such stupidity as the actions of this shooter as well as the hotheadedness of the popcorn thrower. Throwing the book at the shooter probably will not prevent future outbreaks like this whether or not a gun is involved.

A few weeks ago I parked my golf cart right next to another golf cart at a local store in a parking space. I went into the store to buy some things. After I came out, the driver of a SUV which had been parked to my left was furious with me for parking the golf cart a view inches further to the parking space line than I needed to be.

He beeped his horn numerous times, yelled at me, drove away and then stopped and glared at me from his SUV. Then he turned around and came back in the other direction.

I just froze in the golf cart not wanting to provoke the man any more. He did have his wife with him whom I assume had a hard time of getting into the passenger side.

Still to get red with rage at me for my parking a few inches too close.

This was a senior as well like the person at the Cobb movie theater.

Hope this event of mine and the Cobb theater shooting are lessons that we can all learn from in that we should just try to calm down and reflect a bit before anger takes over our better judgments.
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WOW! I am sure the killer hopes you and eleven more like you, are on the jury. Jerk? Seriously, jerk? Well the killer certainly has stopped him from being a "popcorn-jerk". That popcorn can burn if it hits you in the eye!
Do you condone the behavior of the "popcorn-jerk"? And do you doubt that he would still be alive today if he hadn't acted like a jerk?

I rest my case.
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Ex-cop challenged woman over texting in SAME movie theater just three weeks ago it emerges as lawyer claims retired cop had 'every right to defend himself and felt threatened' after victim threw popcorn in heated row | Mail Online


My brother and my sister-in-law and I drove by this Cobb Theater which is on the west side of I-75 near Wesley Chapel. Directions - The Grove at Wesley Chapel

I cannot think up any means of preventing such stupidity as the actions of this shooter as well as the hotheadedness of the popcorn thrower. Throwing the book at the shooter probably will not prevent future outbreaks like this whether or not a gun is involved.

A few weeks ago I parked my golf right next to another golf cart at a local store in a parking space. I went into the store to buy some things. After I came out, the driver of a SUV which had been parked to my left was furious with me for parking the golf cart a view inches further to the parking space line than I needed to be.

He beeped his horn numerous times, yelled at me, and then stopped and glared at me from his SUV. Then came back in the other direction.

I just froze in the golf cart not wanting to provoke the man any more. He did have his wife with him whom I assume had a hard time of getting into the passenger side.

Still to get red with rage at me for my parking a few inches too close.

This was a senior as well like the person at the Cobb movie theater.

Hope this event of mine and the Cobb theater shooting are lessons that we can all learn from in that we should just try to calm down and reflect a bit before anger takes over our better judgments.
You are probably very lucky that he was not packing heat!
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Ex-cop challenged woman over texting in SAME movie theater just three weeks ago it emerges as lawyer claims retired cop had 'every right to defend himself and felt threatened' after victim threw popcorn in heated row | Mail Online


My brother and my sister-in-law and I drove by this Cobb Theater which is on the west side of I-75 near Wesley Chapel. Directions - The Grove at Wesley Chapel

I cannot think up any means of preventing such stupidity as the actions of this shooter as well as the hotheadedness of the popcorn thrower. Throwing the book at the shooter probably will not prevent future outbreaks like this whether or not a gun is involved.

A few weeks ago I parked my golf right next to another golf cart at a local store in a parking space. I went into the store to buy some things. After I came out, the driver of a SUV which had been parked to my left was furious with me for parking the golf cart a view inches further to the parking space line than I needed to be.

He beeped his horn numerous times, yelled at me, drove away and then stopped and glared at me from his SUV. Then he turned around and came back in the other direction.

I just froze in the golf cart not wanting to provoke the man any more. He did have his wife with him whom I assume had a hard time of getting into the passenger side.

Still to get red with rage at me for my parking a few inches too close.

This was a senior as well like the person at the Cobb movie theater.

Hope this event of mine and the Cobb theater shooting are lessons that we can all learn from in that we should just try to calm down and reflect a bit before anger takes over our better judgments.
Good advice, Taltarzac. You did the right thing and I would have done the same.

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Do you condone the behavior of the "popcorn-jerk"? And do you doubt that he would still be alive today if he hadn't acted like a jerk?

I rest my case.
There is no case. I do not condone the action of the shooter or the dead man. But to kill over an argument? You know darn well that 20 years ago two guys would have ended up with bloody noses and embarassed wives.
Kill over texting, where, oh where are you coming from.
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Like getting killed? Wow!
So we just go off and kill jerks? Wow!
I didn't say that, you said that. Your conclusion was based solely on the fact that I called a jerk a jerk. I was simply saying that if he hadn't acted like a jerk, non of this would have happened.

Your conclusion was amazing!
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Before I provide the statistic I have a bet:

If less than 365 people were murdered (in the U.S) from legal guns last year I will pay YOU XXXX. If more than 365 people were murdered from legal guns last year you will pay ME XXXX.

What shall we make the XXXX?

I know you won't take that bet at any price.

PS: and yes we will not count those stopping a crime (police or otherwise). I'm talking about the number of people arrested and charged with murder whose gun was legally registered to them.

For the last year I could find stats (2011), there were almost 9000 murders from guns. You really think less than 365 (4%) were legally purchased?
You didn't say a legally purchased gun. You said a concealed (legal) gun. If it is not being carried pursuant to a Concealed Weapons License it is not legal.

Rather than grandstanding, why don't you just publish the data and your source so I can look at it?

I would really like to see the data.


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Do you condone the behavior of the "popcorn-jerk"? And do you doubt that he would still be alive today if he hadn't acted like a jerk?

I rest my case.
First, were you there? Did you observe the alleged popcorn thrower being a "jerk"? Second, are you justifying killing someone for being a jerk? If so, I probably deserve to be dead, along with a majority of people I have known in my life. I can imagine some self-important a-hole confronting me while I was texting my granddaughter DURING THE PREVIEWS, and I would have probably given him a look, or even told him to mind his own business, making me a potential victim. How do you, or any of us know, that there was not a serious reason for this guy to text his 3 YO daughter and/or her sitter DURING THE STINKING PREVIEWS. I am beyond astounded that any thinking human being can rationalize that this was in any way a justifiable or reasonable act.
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First, were you there? Did you observe the alleged popcorn thrower being a "jerk"? Second, are you justifying killing someone for being a jerk? If so, I probably deserve to be dead, along with a majority of people I have known in my life. I can imagine some self-important a-hole confronting me while I was texting my granddaughter DURING THE PREVIEWS, and I would have probably given him a look, or even told him to mind his own business, making me a potential victim. How do you, or any of us know, that there was not a serious reason for this guy to text his 3 YO daughter and/or her sitter DURING THE STINKING PREVIEWS. I am beyond astounded that any thinking human being can rationalize that this was in any way a justifiable or reasonable act.
I agree I can not imagine any scenario where it would be appropriate to kill someone for throwing popcorn,texting or being a jerk.
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