[JeanneBeannie]

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Know matter what you think of Michael Jackson's personal life... his talent cannot be denied. He changed the face of music and brought great joy to millions and millions of people. That, in itself, should be respected. My prayers are with his family and friends.

Beautifully put Chelsea, I feel the same way. I was deeply saddened by his death and have had the television coverage on non stop since I heard the news.
It was a very sad day to also learn Farrah Fawsett lost her courageous battle with cancer. I watched the documentary she did last night, its amazing all she went thru.
Prayers to both the family and friends.

[Keedy]

Woodworking is my favorite hobby and I spent some time on a couple of woodworking sites this morning. One forum had a couple of threads about the recent passing of Mr. Jackson. Most woodworkers are very thoughtful and logical. It was very weird to read the posts today because I have never seen the emotional side of these guys like I seen today.
I will not get into specifics but obviously there were two sides and I read them all, twice. Sometimes it is easy to not look at the seamy side of people's personalities...but society the way it is today...seems like nobody likes to keep things personal anymore.
There is this need for the public to know what these high profile people are doing in their private lives. They make their life public so as to not be forgotten and to sell their products. We read about them and then buy tickets to their shows or albums. Some times we wonder if the bizarre behavior is just an act for more publicity or are they really that weird.
Anyways, one of the woodworkers posted these links with actual transcripts from a grand jury. Ladies and gentlemen these are real documents and not something a publicist has dreamed up. There were search warrants ordered from a judge for Mr. Jackson's home in "Neverland" . The things confiscated from his house, especially his bedroom and private bathroom were...well..I won't go there. The testimony from the boys were very thorough and disturbing.
These things have been available to the public for awhile. I only read about 100 pages of this testimony to see if it was done professionally and to see something in writing that wasn't fabricated by people being paid to be impartial. I just thought I would see both sides of this so I could get my own perspective and not be influenced by the media or someone with an agenda.
Anyways, I haven't had my television on today and my radio is tuned to a gardening show (another hobby). I don't know where I'm going with this exactly but I just thought I would do some investigating on my own. I am not going to bore you with my opinion of this morning's research, but I feel that my perspective on this subject is more broad and I think I'm going to put it to rest. So, good bye Michael, Farrah , Ed........ RIP

[Russ_Boston]

Can you provide a link to the transcripts. I'd like to read them. Like many I was on the fence about his guilt because of lack of knowledge on my part.

But as many have mentioned - it doesn't take away from his influence on music and pop culture.

Thanks.

[Keedy]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Can you provide a link to the transcripts. I'd like to read them. Like many I was on the fence about his guilt because of lack of knowledge on my part.

But as many have mentioned - it doesn't take away from his influence on music and pop culture.

Thanks.

Sure...Just scroll down until you see the Jon Doe, Jane Doe's and click on....

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michael...grandjury.html

[Donna]

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Know matter what you think of Michael Jackson's personal life... his talent cannot be denied. He changed the face of music and brought great joy to millions and millions of people. That, in itself, should be respected. My prayers are with his family and friends.

I agree Chels..Hopefully, now he can find the peace he looked so hard for during his very sad life...RIP Michael!

[Keedy]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Can you provide a link to the transcripts. I'd like to read them. Like many I was on the fence about his guilt because of lack of knowledge on my part.

But as many have mentioned - it doesn't take away from his influence on music and pop culture.

Thanks.

Russ...Just curious...have you read the transcripts? Like I said I only read about 100 pages. It seemed like it was very thorough and professionally executed.

[Russ_Boston]

Did you read my post that you quoted? I'd like to read them so I was wondering if you had the link from the location that you read them at. It would make for interesting reading.

Thanks,

[SteveFromNY]

Russ - the link is at the bottom of that quoted response.

[Keedy]

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston

Did you read my post that you quoted? I'd like to read them so I was wondering if you had the link from the location that you read them at. It would make for interesting reading.

Thanks,

Steve is right....post # 34.

[Karen83]

I hope his victims can find peace.

[Russ_Boston]

Oh sorry about that - my bad.

Didn't see the first one. I'll have time later today to read it.

Thanks!

[Russ_Boston]

Ok read some of it. Mostly skimmed over since I remember hearing much of this when it happened.

The big problem I would have if I had been on a jury in this case would be the excessive amount of coaching that was done. In the first 20 pages one kid talks about his father's 'bachelor pad'. What 15 year old says that? He didn't say 'father' he says 'biological father'. I was adopted as well and it was always 'dad' not my 'adopted dad' and my 'biological father'. Seems way too rehearsed. If you are on a jury and you hear this in the first 15 minutes you get tainted at the rest of the story even if it has a ring of truth to it.

I'm not saying that some of the statements don't make your stomach queasy. My bottom line is that I think MJ was some sort of pedophile. Not sure the extent of it based on these readings but too much there to be nothing I think.

Just not sure I'd convict due to the excessive involvement and coaching of the prosecutor. Typical LA overproduction.