[Glowing Horizon]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

I've never worked in a place that had cleaners whose only job was to vacuum the floor. I can't imagine any office I've ever worked in, spending $15,000 on a vacuum, and still need humans to wash the toilets and counters and sinks in the bathroom, sanitize the front desk, empty all the waste baskets and refill them with bags, bring the trash down to the compactor and run the compactor, clean any windows between the foyer and the front office, sweep and mop all floors that don't have carpeting, shake out the rain mats...

Seems like a huge waste of money to me. But then, I vacuum my own house, I don't hire cleaners to clean my house for me, and if I did, I'd make them vacuum AND do the rest of the cleaning, for a set rate and not an hourly wage. If they can get the job done faster, then that'd mean their hourly pay was higher. If they are slow, then their hourly pay ends up being smaller. If it takes a two-person crew a half hour to clean my house and I pay them $50 for the visit, then they're getting $25 each. If they do 5 houses that day, they're earning $125/day. If they do that 5 days a week, that's $650/week. Four weeks a month is $2600/month. Not too shabby for a part-time gig in Florida.

A person who cleans 5 houses a day 5 days a week deserves significantly more than your measly $25 bc they have to supply cleaning supplies and they lose a lot of time traveling & they pay travel costs from one job to the next. $32,500 is below the federal poverty level for good reason. They get no paid vacations or sick time, no pension or social security, and cleaning is very hard on the body’s skin, joints, lungs, etc. so that stream of income will be unreliable long term. If they get hurt doing the job, there’s no workman’s comp. Or disability. Most never report income to IRS & most misers do not report the payments as income on a 1099 as you are legally required, so they can’t prove their own income for SSI or SSDI.Would YOU clean 5x2=10 dirty toilets every day for what you pay them? Of course you wouldn’t!

[Glowing Horizon]

Originally Posted by PugMom

many people said that years ago, --we were told we were bluffing & now it has come to pass
very sad

It has not yet “come to pass” but it will. However, not in our lifetime. Now, better get yourself on over to the square to get in line & make yourself Happy! We should be very grateful that our reign will end before the clock strikes midnight.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Has nothing to do with minimum wage, since the employees that these robots replace, are paid MORE than minimum wage to start with. In addition, someone has to make those robots. Someone has to write the programs for them, and update the programs as the needs of each store changes. Someone has to deliver them. Someone has to repair them. Someone has to do periodic maintenance on them. Someone has to run the company that manufactures them, and they need sales people to convince store companies to buy or lease them. And I can guarantee that NONE of the people doing any of these things is being paid minimum wage.

What is happening, is there's a whole new genre of skilled employees who work in robotics. A great career opportunity for someone who doesn't want to be stuck counting boxes of cereal on a shelf for the rest of their lives.

The initial cost is capitalized and amortized over several years or leased.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Glowing Horizon

A person who cleans 5 houses a day 5 days a week deserves significantly more than your measly $25 bc they have to supply cleaning supplies and they lose a lot of time traveling & they pay travel costs from one job to the next. $32,500 is below the federal poverty level for good reason. They get no paid vacations or sick time, no pension or social security, and cleaning is very hard on the body’s skin, joints, lungs, etc. so that stream of income will be unreliable long term. If they get hurt doing the job, there’s no workman’s comp. Or disability. Most never report income to IRS & most misers do not report the payments as income on a 1099 as you are legally required, so they can’t prove their own income for SSI or SSDI.Would YOU clean 5x2=10 dirty toilets every day for what you pay them? Of course you wouldn’t!

I think you're a bit stuck on the dollar amount. You're also ignoring that I said someone might pay $50 for the job - if it was just one person doing that job, they'd get the whole $50. $50 for a half-hour's work at a house, times five houses per day is $250 per day, for 2-1/2 hours of work (not including travelling) is great money, for a part-time job. I wouldn't pay them anything - I clean my own house. My dad has a service come in once a week, he pays $60, and it's 2 women who come in, they own the business, and he gets invoiced. They bring in some supplies but use the supplies at the house for the rest. They use my dad's vacuum cleaner, mop, and broom.