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Old 12-12-2012, 10:06 AM
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My son up North wants us to move back to either NY or NJ....they lost her mom around the time we were moving here to FL... At that time (and a bit before) we werent on talking terms due to pt. my fault and theirs as well....Seeing them put Sean who was a baby at the time in their car killed me while I'd be waiting at stop sign to go to my job....Anyway now they want us to come back home since there is no real family for them to help be with Sean now 5 and Ryan will be 2 in Feb....They fell that moving again will be a back mistake for us to stay in FL and not come back.......I dont want to go back to cold, etc...weather any opinions???Anyone in or have been in same boat??? URGGGGh
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They sound a bit selfish to expect you to change your life to make theirs easier. You've raised your children. They need to raise theirs. They can always visit. Live your own life!
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:48 AM
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Enjoy the best years of your life. They can vacation in florida in the winter to see you and you can vacation up north during the summer to see them. Just my opinion and what I hope to do. Plus the little ones will love the theme parks
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Let me see if I have this correct -- you guys had a falling out. One that was so bad that you couldn't even see your grandson. Now, they need help and you guys should give up a life you love to be a babysitter and maybe an occasional bank? Your son and daughter-in-law seem incredibly selfish and self-centered to me. Sorry, I go with living your life in the way that makes you happiest. Your grands are going to grow and your son won't need you. Then what do you do? Come back here and try to start a new life again after you're dumped again?
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Even if everything is fine in your relationship, which from what you say it isn't, it could be a mistake to move. Say you move, sell your house here. Two years later your son gets a great job opportunity in Washington. There you sit by yourself, or you move once again. No one can tell you what to do, but I think you should stay put. Now both our kids want to see the world and live exciting places. Whether they will or not, who knows. Neither is married yet. But I've got to think grandparents are going to get a lot more visits when they live an hour from Disney World.
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They sound a bit selfish to expect you to change your life to make theirs easier. You've raised your children. They need to raise theirs. They can always visit. Live your own life!

Sounds like someone is looking or a free babysitter, but maybe not. I would ask myself this question, "did my children always do what I wanted?" We do what is best for us and our children do what is best for them. Wouldn't have it any other way. Only you can decide.
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We did the same MISTAKE about 6 years ago, moved back to NJ for the grandchildren, our idea not theirs. The winters were terrible and we ended up renting for a month or 2 every year in south Florida. The cost of living up north was much higher than here. So back we came to Florida to benefit OUR lives and health. Need I tell you how much we lost financial buying when prices were high and selling when they were in the basement? Do yourself a favor and think long and hard about that type of move before you do it. In a few years the children will be involved in lots of things and probably have very little time for you and what would happen if your son was offered a job somewhere else..........would he stay there for you? Please think it over and weigh all the pros and cons. Good luck in what ever you decide.
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A bit of a story:

Some OH friends of ours followed their dream a number of years ago and moved to south FL. Their grown kids didn't really come into play as far as thinking of staying in OH and not moving went. Their single son was living nearby in OH but was living the single life. Their married daughter had one infant child at that point and was living in DC. FL to DC wasn't too bad of a trip to visit versus being in OH. So off to south FL our friends went.

Things changed: Single son became married son and they were going to be starting a family soon. Married daughter has another baby.......and moves back to central OH. Our friends? After living in FL for 4 years, the pull of family caused them to want to move back to OH to be near them. The key for them was they wanted to be a very integral part of their grandchildren's (now numbering 4!) lives while they were growing up - that was extremely important to them. They miss what they had in FL but are comfortable they make the right decision (for THEM) in moving back to OH. They've been back in OH for about 9 years or so.......and as the grandkids are getting older, they're thinking of starting to want to spend their winters in FL!

Bottom line: Ya gotta do what YOU feel is the right thing to do. You're the only person who can truly answer that question.

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You questioned on another thread if you could afford The Villages living on a fixed income. How could you possibly live in NY/NJ on this same fixed income, unless you're talking about living far from the metropolitan areas. Even then, the property taxes or rents would be extremely high.
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I have to agree with most opinions already given. It sounds like your moving is not in the best interest of the grandchildren, not in your best interest, but is in your son and his wifes best interest. If until you find it's in your best interest, I would stay put or consider snow-birding if that option is feasible and affordable!
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My son up North wants us to move back to either NY or NJ....they lost her mom around the time we were moving here to FL... At that time (and a bit before) we werent on talking terms due to pt. my fault and theirs as well....Seeing them put Sean who was a baby at the time in their car killed me while I'd be waiting at stop sign to go to my job....Anyway now they want us to come back home since there is no real family for them to help be with Sean now 5 and Ryan will be 2 in Feb....They fell that moving again will be a back mistake for us to stay in FL and not come back.......I dont want to go back to cold, etc...weather any opinions???Anyone in or have been in same boat??? URGGGGh
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I also agree with what most others have said. Also lets say you give away your dream to help your son and two years later he gets a great job half way across the country. Will he 1) stay where he is because mom and dad moved back and he wants to be close to them. 2) follow his dream and too bad for you Only you can decide what is best for you. You only have one life to live and every day you spend not living your path is a waste. When children are young and dependant parents owe it to them to give up what the parent wants for the good of the kids. Once the kids grow up and can fend for themselves you don't owe them a thing. I think this is why birds build their nest high up in trees and shove real hard when pushing their young out of the nest
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My son up North wants us to move back to either NY or NJ....they lost her mom around the time we were moving here to FL... At that time (and a bit before) we werent on talking terms due to pt. my fault and theirs as well....Seeing them put Sean who was a baby at the time in their car killed me while I'd be waiting at stop sign to go to my job....Anyway now they want us to come back home since there is no real family for them to help be with Sean now 5 and Ryan will be 2 in Feb....They fell that moving again will be a back mistake for us to stay in FL and not come back.......I dont want to go back to cold, etc...weather any opinions???Anyone in or have been in same boat??? URGGGGh
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My son up North wants us to move back to either NY or NJ....they lost her mom around the time we were moving here to FL... At that time (and a bit before) we werent on talking terms due to pt. my fault and theirs as well....Seeing them put Sean who was a baby at the time in their car killed me while I'd be waiting at stop sign to go to my job....Anyway now they want us to come back home since there is no real family for them to help be with Sean now 5 and Ryan will be 2 in Feb....They fell that moving again will be a back mistake for us to stay in FL and not come back.......I dont want to go back to cold, etc...weather any opinions???Anyone in or have been in same boat??? URGGGGh
You have answered your own questions: Your son wants you back to babysit, that's not your idea. You don't want to return to the cold. Your title is "Guilt Trip". Guilt is the archenemy of a positive, healthy lifestyle.
Less important is money, but think about how much more it will cost to move back and then try to do the 'retire' thing later. Thousands!!! If you want, use some of that money to bring the kids and grandkids here as often as possible. Everybody will think it's special and you will LOVE babysitting then.
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I lived in Missouri. My daughter and her family moved to Phoenix, AZ suburb and then my other daughter moved to Scottsdale, AZ. I decided I would move to be near them. I was in education and had to take the Arizona Teacher Test. I moved to Arizona that next year and taught at a school district in a western suburb of Phoenix. Both daughters moved back to Minnesota and Illinois within six months.

Take my advice. Enjoy the Florida sunshine!
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