[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

And who decides what is a "fair profit"? Do you not notice the difference in prices between Walmart, Public, Winn Dixie, etc. on food products? Where are the set prices here? Using your idea a gallon of milk should be the same price at all stores but that is price fixing and quite illegal. All the extras, the lady mentioned in the OP bought, would be available even at fixed prices. How would fixed prices affect the trade in value on a car allowed by the dealership? Sometimes lessons learned can be harsh.

The difference is that, when you go into a Walmart, a television will have a price tag of say $800 on it. Everyone who buys that TV will pay $800 plus 7 percent sales tax.

But when you go into a car dealership, a car will have a price tag of say $30,000 on it. Depending on the car, I can almost guarantee that I can buy that car for at about $3,000 less than an uniformed buyer will pay.

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

The difference is that, when you go into a Walmart, a television will have a price tag of say $800 on it. Everyone who buys that TV will pay $800 plus 7 percent sales tax.

But when you go into a car dealership, a car will have a price tag of say $30,000 on it. Depending on the car, I can almost guarantee that I can buy that car for at about $3,000 less than an uniformed buyer will pay.

When this is over will need to buy a second car. Can we hire you?

[Northerner52]

I went to the dealer I was referring to and we renegotiated the deal 2 days later.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC

When this is over will need to buy a second car. Can we hire you?

Not something I do, but you probably don't need help anyway.

[Dana1963]

Nitrogen is a real ripoff 2000 cu ft tank is about $2.00. The air we breath is 78% Nitrogen and 20,95 Oxygen the remaining quantity 2% close to 1% Argon the last 1% is a combination of 6 gases including CO2. Over time Oxygen and other gases will leach out of tire similar to why balloon deflates over time with no apparent leak quicker when filled with Helium the molecule is so small.

[Dana1963]

Hyundai is great for advertising $25 gift card to test drive new car. Their goal is to get you in and talk a trade and tell you how much in demand your trade in is valued.
I have had better luck dealing with Car Dealers in Orlando than looking here I assume they think Villagers are easy.

[chrissy2231]

Report it to AARP. They're big on this stuff.

[chrissy2231]

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The best way to negotiate. I pay $500 over invoice. They get hold backs & other stuff. I never pay destination fee.

[chrissy2231]

The best way to negotiate. I pay $500 over invoice. They get hold backs & other stuff. I never pay destination fee.
car-buying-strategies.com/dealer-invoice

[OhioBuckeye]

Originally Posted by Northerner52

A friend was taken advantage of at a Leesburg auto dealer. Besides Seniors Vs Crime. Any suggestions on recourse?

How was he taken advantage of?There’s 2 sides of the story!

[bilcon]

BUYER BEWARE. If you don't know what you're doing, take someone with you who does. Years ago, my wife decided to lease a new car. She knew nothing about car leasing and she almost paid $600 a month for the lease. Thankfully, she held off on the lease on the new Infinity, and I got my "lease genius" friend to help me. By the time she leased it, it was $300 a month with 15K miles a year. Know yours limits, study prices, stick to your guns or walk away.

"I never made a mistake in my life. I thought I did once, but I was wrong."

[tvbound]

Originally Posted by chrissy2231

The best way to negotiate. I pay $500 over invoice. They get hold backs & other stuff. I never pay destination fee.
car-buying-strategies.com/dealer-invoice

I agree.

Buying a vehicle has always been one of the most stressful things the average person does in their life, but in the last 25 years or so with the internet, the field has been leveled. In this day and age, and not trying to sound like a jerk, if you go to buy a vehicle without having done at least a few hours of internet research, knowing what model you want and having researched the dealers invoice price, you are guaranteed to pay thousands more than you need to. Always negotiate up from dealers invoice, not down from MSRP. Having said that, keep in mind if a certain model is very popular, you will not have the leverage you will have on a middling level brand's model(s).

[mollypeanut]

I’m happy you were able to resolve the issue. Your friend is lucky to have you!

[bpascani]

Originally Posted by Northerner52

A friend was taken advantage of at a Leesburg auto dealer. Besides Seniors Vs Crime. Any suggestions on recourse?

I would suggest, for car/truck purchase @Southeast Car Agency on NE 39th Ave in Gainesville. VERY honest, patient, and fair price. We had heard good things about them for years, and finally needed a car in 2018. They were as awesome as we were told. When we need our next car, we will go back up there, for sure. BUT, @Accu Tech Automotive on US301 in Oxford is taking such good car of my car, ans SO reasonable, it might be longer than we thought, before we have to get me another car!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Dana1963

Nitrogen is a real ripoff 2000 cu ft tank is about $2.00. The air we breath is 78% Nitrogen and 20,95 Oxygen the remaining quantity 2% close to 1% Argon the last 1% is a combination of 6 gases including CO2. Over time Oxygen and other gases will leach out of tire similar to why balloon deflates over time with no apparent leak quicker when filled with Helium the molecule is so small.

I kind of vaguely recall hearing that tires filled with nitrogen would yield better gas mileage.