[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Last night after work I read up on Quiverfull and fail to see where they would be a cult any more than other religious sects such as Hasidic Jewish or the more conservative Muslim schools. I recall one of the eight being against it. Catholics are also against most types of birth control. (If interested in learning details about any of the above it would be best to speak to someone that practices the faith. One comment I found somewhat amusing was one of my Iranian friends (Muslim) explaining that birth control is encouraged in some Muslim schools of thought not so much because it is healthier for the woman, but because it helps the woman keep her appearance which pleases the man (sorry ladies, sometimes you just can not win). Anyway, the purpose of the post, I would caution against using words like cult, facist etc so easily.

It’s not about the facts, it’s the virtue signaling that matters

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Really interesting documentary/interview about the Duggar family and the IBLP (Institute of Basic Life Principals). It's on Amazon Prime, split into four episodes since it's over 2 hours long total.

It really does explain a WHOLE lot about some of the attitudes of intolerance that have gotten worse over the past 15-20 years in this country.

I agree. I have seen much more INTOLERANCE toward straight families, Judaeo-Christian ideology, Sobriety, and plain old decency. I have to applaud those decent folks that have been tolerant of deviant lifestyles when they really cannot condone them. Having abnormal behavior force fed on our children really requires a lot of patience and tolerance. It is unfortunate that folks today feel that intimacy should be public instead of private where it belongs.

[Whitley]

I need to say that I am confused to hear people say how loud, angry, violent, Matt Walsh is. If anyone has seen "What Is A Woman" (Free on Twitter now), he is nothing but polite and respectful. The people he is speaking with get angry, loud, disrespectful. I spend time trying to understand the divide in our country. If people can watch "What Is A Woman" and leave thinking Mr. Walsh was the aggressive disrespectful one, I may as well stop trying to find common ground. It is sad how people, if you respectfully disagree with what they say, get aggressive, walk out of even scream calling you fascist yada yada yada.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Earned?

Hmmm... I seem to remember that poster commenting that, "If it doesn't affect you, why should you care?" in response to others complaining about things...

I guess that only works for other people...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Whitley

Last night after work I read up on Quiverfull and fail to see where they would be a cult any more than other religious sects such as Hasidic Jewish or the more conservative Muslim schools. I recall one of the eight being against it. Catholics are also against most types of birth control. (If interested in learning details about any of the above it would be best to speak to someone that practices the faith. One comment I found somewhat amusing was one of my Iranian friends (Muslim) explaining that birth control is encouraged in some Muslim schools of thought not so much because it is healthier for the woman, but because it helps the woman keep her appearance which pleases the man (sorry ladies, sometimes you just can not win). Anyway, the purpose of the post, I would caution against using words like cult, facist etc so easily.

But using those words makes bashing those you hate so much easier...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Whitley

I need to say that I am confused to hear people say how loud, angry, violent, Matt Walsh is. If anyone has seen "What Is A Woman" (Free on Twitter now), he is nothing but polite and respectful. The people he is speaking with get angry, loud, disrespectful. I spend time trying to understand the divide in our country. If people can watch "What Is A Woman" and leave thinking Mr. Walsh was the aggressive disrespectful one, I may as well stop trying to find common ground. It is sad how people, if you respectfully disagree with what they say, get aggressive, walk out of even scream calling you fascist yada yada yada.

Exactly... I challenge anyone to provide a clip of Matt Walsh being "Loud, Angry or Violent"...

Same with the guy "Billboard Chris"... Always polite, quiet, respectful. Yet he's constantly attacked, verbally AND physically, by those who disagree with him...

You can disagree with either of them. I don't give a damn. But anyone who becomes vulgar or violent has lost the moral high ground...

Yet there are those on this board who will applaud those who do just that...

[oldtimes]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Hmmm... I seem to remember that poster commenting that, "If it doesn't affect you, why should you care?" in response to others complaining about things...

I guess that only works for other people...

Depends on which high horse they are riding that day

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Hmmm... I seem to remember that poster commenting that, "If it doesn't affect you, why should you care?" in response to others complaining about things...

I guess that only works for other people...

If it doesn't affect me, or people or things that matter to me, I don't care. If it does affect me, or people or things that matter to me, then I do care. So, in many ways I'm probably just like you. But, not as good looking, I'm sure.

[BlueStarAirlines]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

It really does explain a WHOLE lot about some of the attitudes of intolerance that have gotten worse over the past 15-20 years in this country.

I've watched 2-3 documentaries on The Villages that are very slanted and forwarded an agenda...why would this documentary be any different?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by BlueStarAirlines

I've watched 2-3 documentaries on The Villages that are very slanted and forwarded an agenda...why would this documentary be any different?

Because it isn't about The Villages at all. It has nothing to do with The Villages. That's why I created this thread in NON-Villages Discussion. It's about the Duggar Family, and about the IBLP cult, and some general background info about the Quiverful movement.

That's why this documentary is different from all those documentaries about The Villages.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Whitley

I never saw Mr. Walsh get angry and yell. Actually all I have seen is the opposite. People screaming at him when he tries to talk with them. Have you watched "What is a Woman". It makes sense and follows logic. As for his book, it does deal with trans issues. He feels children should not have their bodies mutilated when they are far too young to be having such procedures done. When I was a child I thought I was a fire engine. I believe most of the pushback many "progressive" ideals face today is the result of extremes pushing too far. When I practiced (I switched to banking and finance after a few years) we had the DSM2. People who had a type of body dysmorphia were treated as someone having a psychological disorder. Over the years transgender became more common. It was not until it was introduced to children that there was a major pushback. Re Mr. Walsh, his book Johnny The Walrus is written to explain those on the flip side of transgenderism. The side that is against pushing it on children. If you read his book , it does follow a logical train of thought. Speaking as someone who was educated many years ago, I see a similarity between cutting off a 14 year olds breasts and cutting off the arm of someone who would come to me and say they hate their arm. They should not have it. It is not who they are. IMO playing along with someone's psychosis is not helpful to the individual. We are feeding into their delusion. Again, in my view LGBTQIA+ should have stopped at LGB.

Very interesting to read your logical response/opinion without all the emotionally laden language, that when examined, seems to always be based only on "feelings/emotions", but is almost always short on factual foundation. BTY, I kept EVERY DSM when I made decisions concerning just how much to retain of my private professional library. You are so right, it has been fascinating to compare what has changed, disappeared completely, or now carries a completely description. For what it is worth, I also agree that we should not continue to extend the definitions and create even more categories. Our youth and adults are becoming continually more confused, and it has nothing to do with hate or prejudice and everything to do with the fluidity of long established vocabulary. It will eventually cause a society great difficulty when they no longer have a core vocabulary all can agree on.