[JoMar]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Bring back the draft? To make the country more patriotic? That worked well in the 60's, not.

We are one of the few major nations that do not require service in the military......what we do is keep recycling those that want to serve for whatever reasons. . To say the draft didn't work well in the 60's shows how much you don't know. What we had was a political environment that succumbed to those that didn't want to serve. Hell one of our Presidents even crossed the border so he could avoid serving. Our President and most of our Congress didn't serve and do whatever they can to demean anyone that wears a uniform, military and police. Now,while we keep cutting our resources and focus on being politically correct, our enemies, both foreign and domestic, keep increasing theirs. That will make us a more secure and safe Country....not.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by JoMar

We are one of the few major nations that do not require service in the military.

And here is a list of the "few" nations that do NOT require service

Afghanistan Albania Antigua and Barbuda Argentina Australia Bahamas Bahrain Bangladesh Barbados Belgium Belize Bhutan Bosnia and Herzegovina Botswana Brunei Bulgaria Burkina Faso Burundi Cameroon Canada Chile China (PRC) Comoros Congo Croatia Czech Republic Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ethiopia Fiji France Gabon Gambia Ghana Germany Guyana Honduras Hungary India Indonesia Iraq Ireland Italy Jamaica Japan Jordan Kenya Latvia Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Luxembourg Macedonia Madagascar Malaysia Malawi Maldives Malta Mauritania Morocco Montenegro Namibia Nepal Netherlands New Zealand Nicaragua Nigeria Oman Pakistan Papua New Guinea Peru Philippines Poland Portugal Romania Rwanda Saint Kitts and Nevis San Marino Saudi Arabia Serbia Seychelles Sierra Leone Slovakia Slovenia Somalia South Africa Spain Sri Lanka Suriname Sweden Swaziland Tanzania Timor-Leste Tonga Trinidad and Tobago Uganda United Kingdom United States Uruguay Zambia Zimbabwe
for a total of 124 nations with no service requirement including 19 not listed that do not have a military.

Every permanent member of the Security council is on this list, except Russia as are most of the major EU nations. Many nations not on the no requirement list offer a non-military option for service.

There are 65 countries with a military service requirement of varying length of which 32 require 24 months or longer:

Armenia Angola Central African Republic Chad Cuba Cyprus Equatorial Guinea Guinea Guinea-Bissau Iran Israel Kazakhstan North Korea South Korea Kyrgyzstan Libya Mali Mauritania Mozambique Myanmar Ni ger S�o Tom� and Pr�ncipe Senegal Singapore Somalia (uncertain) Syria Sudan Tajikistan Thailand Togo UAE Vietnam Yemen

So, no it is not accurate to have claimed that most major nations require military service, in fact the opposite is true. But it sounded good so I checked it.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

Bring back the draft? To make the country more patriotic? That worked well in the 60's, not.

Hi Chi: did you not notice that I also suggested they rework the classes because there were too many exemptions. The point I was really making is that young people are so disengaged and as a result we are losing this thing called "patriotism" I need to stop here or I will be going off topic

[OldManTime]

Growing up in the 40's it was in my hometown, and agree we are at war with isis, so it should be played. How about a news clip also.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by rubicon

Hi Chi: did you not notice that I also suggested they rework the classes because there were too many exemptions. The point I was really making is that young people are so disengaged and as a result we are losing this thing called "patriotism" I need to stop here or I will be going off topic

Rubicon, you are right about class differences and how exemptions favored some over others. It's just that the late 60's were such divisive times, and the SSS in its form then was a factor.

I look at my son, nieces, and nephews and their friends and see true patriotism. They are just not as demonstrative as we are.

[Cedwards38]

Patriotism and love of country are things that you either feel in your heart, or you don't. Singing the national anthem, pledging allegiance, getting drafted into the army, or saluting the flag are all more meaningful when someone does it because they want to rather than because they are expected to. It seems to me that the anthem at movies would not really cause more patriotism, but would simply be a routine exercise that people would take for granted, and others would resent. If that's the case then I don't see the point.

[Challenger]

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Originally Posted by blueash

And here is a list of the "few" nations that do NOT require service

Afghanistan Albania Antigua and Barbuda Argentina Australia Bahamas Bahrain Bangladesh Barbados Belgium Belize Bhutan Bosnia and Herzegovina Botswana Brunei Bulgaria Burkina Faso Burundi Cameroon Canada Chile China (PRC) Comoros Congo Croatia Czech Republic Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ethiopia Fiji France Gabon Gambia Ghana Germany Guyana Honduras Hungary India Indonesia Iraq Ireland Italy Jamaica Japan Jordan Kenya Latvia Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Luxembourg Macedonia Madagascar Malaysia Malawi Maldives Malta Mauritania Morocco Montenegro Namibia Nepal Netherlands New Zealand Nicaragua Nigeria Oman Pakistan Papua New Guinea Peru Philippines Poland Portugal Romania Rwanda Saint Kitts and Nevis San Marino Saudi Arabia Serbia Seychelles Sierra Leone Slovakia Slovenia Somalia South Africa Spain Sri Lanka Suriname Sweden Swaziland Tanzania Timor-Leste Tonga Trinidad and Tobago Uganda United Kingdom United States Uruguay Zambia Zimbabwe
for a total of 124 nations with no service requirement including 19 not listed that do not have a military.

Every permanent member of the Security council is on this list, except Russia as are most of the major EU nations. Many nations not on the no requirement list offer a non-military option for service.

There are 65 countries with a military service requirement of varying length of which 32 require 24 months or longer:

Armenia Angola Central African Republic Chad Cuba Cyprus Equatorial Guinea Guinea Guinea-Bissau Iran Israel Kazakhstan North Korea South Korea Kyrgyzstan Libya Mali Mauritania Mozambique Myanmar Ni ger S�o Tom� and Pr�ncipe Senegal Singapore Somalia (uncertain) Syria Sudan Tajikistan Thailand Togo UAE Vietnam Yemen

So, no it is not accurate to have claimed that most major nations require military service, in fact the opposite is true. But it sounded good so I checked it.

Another poster quoting Facts-- drat!!!! This kind of suff will end all the misinfo on TOTV if we are not careful. Yhen what will we have to stew about?

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Challenger

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Another poster quoting Facts-- drat!!!! This kind of suff will end all the misinfo on TOTV if we are not careful. Yhen what will we have to stew about?

How about the ads that TOTV is now inserting into threads. Looks like they are part of the discussion until I figured out Charles Schwab was not responding to blueash.

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by JoMar

We are one of the few major nations that do not require service in the military......what we do is keep recycling those that want to serve for whatever reasons. . To say the draft didn't work well in the 60's shows how much you don't know. What we had was a political environment that succumbed to those that didn't want to serve. Hell one of our Presidents even crossed the border so he could avoid serving. Our President and most of our Congress didn't serve and do whatever they can to demean anyone that wears a uniform, military and police. Now,while we keep cutting our resources and focus on being politically correct, our enemies, both foreign and domestic, keep increasing theirs. That will make us a more secure and safe Country....not.

Tell me how well the draft worked out well in the 60's perhaps starting off with your draft classification. No second hand info please.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by blueash

And here is a list of the "few" nations that do NOT require service

Afghanistan Albania Antigua and Barbuda Argentina Australia Bahamas Bahrain Bangladesh Barbados Belgium Belize Bhutan Bosnia and Herzegovina Botswana Brunei Bulgaria Burkina Faso Burundi Cameroon Canada Chile China (PRC) Comoros Congo Croatia Czech Republic Democratic Republic of the Congo Djibouti Dominican Republic Ethiopia Fiji France Gabon Gambia Ghana Germany Guyana Honduras Hungary India Indonesia Iraq Ireland Italy Jamaica Japan Jordan Kenya Latvia Lebanon Lesotho Liberia Luxembourg Macedonia Madagascar Malaysia Malawi Maldives Malta Mauritania Morocco Montenegro Namibia Nepal Netherlands New Zealand Nicaragua Nigeria Oman Pakistan Papua New Guinea Peru Philippines Poland Portugal Romania Rwanda Saint Kitts and Nevis San Marino Saudi Arabia Serbia Seychelles Sierra Leone Slovakia Slovenia Somalia South Africa Spain Sri Lanka Suriname Sweden Swaziland Tanzania Timor-Leste Tonga Trinidad and Tobago Uganda United Kingdom United States Uruguay Zambia Zimbabwe
for a total of 124 nations with no service requirement including 19 not listed that do not have a military.

Every permanent member of the Security council is on this list, except Russia as are most of the major EU nations. Many nations not on the no requirement list offer a non-military option for service.

There are 65 countries with a military service requirement of varying length of which 32 require 24 months or longer:

Armenia Angola Central African Republic Chad Cuba Cyprus Equatorial Guinea Guinea Guinea-Bissau Iran Israel Kazakhstan North Korea South Korea Kyrgyzstan Libya Mali Mauritania Mozambique Myanmar Ni ger S�o Tom� and Pr�ncipe Senegal Singapore Somalia (uncertain) Syria Sudan Tajikistan Thailand Togo UAE Vietnam Yemen

So, no it is not accurate to have claimed that most major nations require military service, in fact the opposite is true. But it sounded good so I checked it.

[John_W]

I would prefer they did not play the NA because aren't we going to the movies to escape reality for a couple of hours? There's nothing more real then hearing the NA, besides is everyone at the show an American citizen. How would you feel going to the movies in Toronto and before the flick they played the Canadian NA.

As far a mandatory service, I spent 13 months in Korea back in 70-71 and they have mandatory service. However, since Vietnam was going on, they were also sent to Nam except for the rich kids or families with clout could pull a few strings and served but never left the country. In fact they were stationed on our base and were called KATUSA (Koreans assigned to the US Army). They worked in the mess hall, the orderly room and even did guard duty at the gate. All the things we didn't want to do.

[Polar Bear]

No.

[justjim]

National Anthem before a movie----sounds like a pretty good idea but when you think about it----probably not----for reasons others have already posted.

[Cedwards38]

Not to mention, if they play the anthem before a movie, who is going to hold my tub of popcorn, barrel of soft drink, hot dog, nachos, and box of Milkduds while I stand and salute? Yes, that was a lame attempt at humor, but it's sorta true.

I'd be happy if people would just be quiet during movies, but that's another thread.

[rexxfan]

I wouldn't mind it if it was relevant to the subject matter of the movie.
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