[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

That is very typical for many Federal offices, and not an exaggeration. Without a profit motive, the way to get promoted is to arrange it so you have more employees under your supervision.

That was in the 1970’s . I’m sure things have changed

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

If we had flat tax system with NO exemptions there would be no need for IRS. CPAs or tax lawyers. But, wait the rich would have to pay there fare share then.

And so would 50% of the country that pays NO federal income taxes. On the other hand, a federal sales tax would be even more "fair."

[donassaid]

Simpler solution? Do away with tge IRS and go to a value added tax or flat tax rate. Would simplify everyone's lives and eliminate tax cheats.

[billthecpa]

Folks who do not know tax law should stop giving advice. One response said that we are required to report the stimulus payment reported on the 1444-C....and it is required to "properly report our income."
The stimulus payment is NOT INCOME and should not be reported as income. We are simply required to VERIFY the amount received by disclosing it in the tax return as an information item. If IRS sees that you did not receive it....they will add it to your refund....or deduct from your balance due. If you are wrong, they will eventually catch up with it and require you to pay it back. No double dipping allowed!
For the record, CPA's (like me) were going nuts last year when people could not remember whether they received the stimulus, or how much they received. I am already seeing the same problem this year. April 15 can't come fast enough!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Yes, especially the ones who pay less taxes than their secretary. Course the secretary don’t have army of CPAs and tax lawyers getting her out of her fair share.

Oh, stop it already. That "fact" was debunked years ago...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Tax code are made by lawyers which most are in Congress. The exemptions favor the rich and they pay off to get them. Poor or middle class pay more taxes per ratio to income. Flat tax without exemptions everybody would pay. Don’t care how many kids you have, or if you got solar, electric car, or if you have foundation. All would have to pay there fair share.

So you're in favor of a tax code that favors the rich? Cool...

Because with a flat tax, the poor and middle class would be hit harder than "the rich"...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

That was in the 1970’s . I’m sure things have changed

Sarcasm?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by donassaid

Simpler solution? Do away with tge IRS and go to a value added tax or flat tax rate. Would simplify everyone's lives and eliminate tax cheats.

Which would negatively affect the poor and middle class much more than the upper middle class and the rich...

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Most rich people would love a flat tax.

Yes I would.

[irishwonone]

Originally Posted by thevillages2013

My mother (God rest her soul) worked at the IRS 40+ years ago in Atlanta. She would say that (on average)out of ten employees only two actually worked and did their job. I would jokingly ask is she was one of the two or eight. Being able to read and write were the only qualifications for getting a job and they let those slide occasionally.

So true. Big difference between understaffed and unqualified.

[BettyInFL]

So, "how much" is a fair amount of tax in your eyes?

[waterflower]

The IRS is being totally restructured. The tax system was illegal from it's inception. Our fed tax $ went to the crown, vatican and foreign aid.

[waterflower]

We need to take back control of our country. Stop letting criminals control our lives.

[Ewalsh43]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

And the bottom 47% of taxpayers (last year was actually 61%), who currently pay ZERO Federal Income Tax, would have to pony up... It would affect them much more than it would affect "the rich"...

Access Denied

61% never complain when congress raises taxes on the rest of us, because they don’t pay any. If they had skin in the game, and actually had to pay taxes, we would never see another tax increase. I am for a fair flat tax. Fixing ridiculous spending is a whole different discussion. Our tax dollars should only be used funding Americans and our defense.

[Ewalsh43]

Originally Posted by BettyInFL

So, "how much" is a fair amount of tax in your eyes?

7%