[ElDiabloJoe]

I don't know if someone who was a foreign citizen first, then becomes an American citizen has to renounce.

I do know if you are a born-in-the-U.S.A. citizen and you qualify for another country's citizenship and become one, you can be a citizen of both countries. I know this firsthand due to my recently acquired Irish citizenship status (and passport).

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Arlington2

My friend Mr. Google tells me
"Yes, a German can have dual citizenship in America, and the process to do so is becoming easier:
New law
As of June 27, 2024, German nationals can apply for foreign citizenship without losing their German citizenship. This is due to the Act on the Modernization of the Citizenship Law (StARModG), which eliminates the need for a Retention Permit to keep German citizenship."

Thanks for this. Forwarding to our son and DIL.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Does it list any of the add on benefits like SSI, disability, welfare any many more that may suck money out of SS? Which was originally a retirement fund only?

Welfare is funded through taxes, it is not an entitlement of Social Security at all.
SSI is funded through taxes and is also not an entitlement of Social Security.

SSDI is funded through Social Security, and is available ONLY to people who have paid into it through payroll deductions up until the point that they've been approved to receive SSDI benefits.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

Welfare is funded through taxes, it is not an entitlement of Social Security at all.
SSI is funded through taxes and is also not an entitlement of Social Security.

SSDI is funded through Social Security, and is available ONLY to people who have paid into it through payroll deductions up until the point that they've been approved to receive SSDI benefits.

That went right over your head why these programs was enacted.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

They done it Legally, I don’t think Eldon nor the son’s girlfriend snook across the border or use the 1-800 number to jump ahead of legal immigration and border jumpers. But, not worry illegal border jumpers will have to back to Moling under border shorty.

Elon came in on a student visa, which was extended to allow him to enroll in Stanford University after getting a couple of degrees from UPenn and Wharton. But - he chose not to go to Stanford and he was no longer authorized to remain in the USA. He stayed here anyway - illegally. He told shareholders and former business associates that he was here on a student visa - when that student visa was no longer valid.

So yes - he was an unauthorized immigrant for a period of time.

[TheWarriors]

Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy

muskrat is a liar, poser and a fraud. It's very easy to see if you look beyond the headlines and what he wants you to believe.

both should go, neither one is great for the US., they just clog up the legal process

I disagree, actually he is quite successful at challenging industries most have failed to succeed in. He is the adult in the room actually saying we cannot sustain our increasing debt load, yet many think the gravy train will never end. Why are we sending money we don’t have to other countries?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by TheWarriors

I disagree, actually he is quite successful at challenging industries most have failed to succeed in. He is the adult in the room actually saying we cannot sustain our increasing debt load, yet many think the gravy train will never end. Why are we sending money we don’t have to other countries?

We must have it or we could not send it.

We send it because it is the human thing to do and/or because if we don't then someone else will. The actions we take now will be remembered in the future when we need natural resources or political friends or a place to refuel our planes or even just permission to cross airspace.

[SaucyJim]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

Does it list any of the add on benefits like SSI, disability, welfare any many more that may suck money out of SS? Which was originally a retirement fund only?

Social Security was never a retirement fund. It was an insurance program against outliving one’s savings/retirement. The age was not adjusted upward to reflect the extended lifespan, so it became unsustainable.

[TheWarriors]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

We must have it or we could not send it.

We send it because it is the human thing to do and/or because if we don't then someone else will. The actions we take now will be remembered in the future when we need natural resources or political friends or a place to refuel our planes or even just permission to cross airspace.

We will see how humane it is when chaos is the norm in our Country when inflation hits 1000% and people do what they have to in order not to starve. We are not immune to self destruction and I don’t see any other Countries that will seek to save us.

[Wondering]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

I was looking at the SSA statement today of my cola increase and my total deductions and benefit amount. I noticed a line item titled "income tax deduction for non-citzens". I was unaware that non-citizens were eligible for social security retirement benefits. Am I mistaken?

Do some legitimate research. If they are granted permanent residence because they work for the Department of Homeland Security, they pay US taxes and are entitled to SS.

[FrostyBear]

Originally Posted by CFrance

Our German daughter-in-law came over to the US a year and a half ago and married our son. (They've known each other for years.) She applied for and received her right-to-work letter, followed by her green card, after satisfying many requirements and providing proof of others. It took four months. She is employed full time at a pharmacy and pays into SS. Everything was done legally through an immigration attorney. She will renew it for a certain number of times, after which she will be allowed to stay for ten years. At the end of ten years they may have some decisions to make. Apparently US doesn't offer dual citzenship, so she would have to renounce her German citizenship. We're not exactly sure that will be the case.

Germany does not recognize dual citizenship, although that might be changing soon. The US recognizes dual citizenship but with certain rules.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

I was looking at the SSA statement today of my cola increase and my total deductions and benefit amount. I noticed a line item titled "income tax deduction for non-citzens". I was unaware that non-citizens were eligible for social security retirement benefits. Am I mistaken?

If they earn the benefit by paying FICA taxes, or qualify as the insured dependent of a number holder, citizens of any nation, or of no nation can receive Social Security benefits. Their residence in some foreign countries such as North Korea will cause suspension of payments.

Social Security is just an insurance plan the indemnifies against the loss of earned income due to retirement, death, or disability.

[Sherkugawa]

Originally Posted by Cliff Fr

I was looking at the SSA statement today of my cola increase and my total deductions and benefit amount. I noticed a line item titled "income tax deduction for non-citzens". I was unaware that non-citizens were eligible for social security retirement benefits. Am I mistaken?

Yes, Social Security will pay retirement benefits to non-citizens. It’s really quite common. 5 years (40 calendar quarters) of work at sufficient income levels and the worker is eligible.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by FrostyBear

Germany does not recognize dual citizenship, although that might be changing soon. The US recognizes dual citizenship but with certain rules.

Post #11 and this Germany Visa page say otherwise.

[SoCalGal]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

For example, DACA recipients have to pay into Social Security via payroll deductions like everyone else, but they are not eligible to receive Social Security retirement benefits. They have no path to citizenship.

That's what happens when one's parents enter America illegally.