[mtlee024]

Originally Posted by 8notes

Why don't police carry tasers? They are a weapon, can be used at a distance, like pepper spray, and are less lethal than guns. Through the end of September 2020, over 700 people have been shot and killed by police, an increasing trend.

You might want to go back an read the articles from several of the latest high profile shooting. I think you will find that Tasers were used and ineffective.

The real questions in my mind are:

1, Why don't we see news when a white man is shot by police. Far more white men are shot by police then black men.

2. What would have happened if the black man shot would have just done what the police told him to do. I would be willing to bet a lot that he would not have been shot, which begs the question:

3, How many black men are stopped by police, do what the police say and don't get shot, and why isn't that news.

I know the answers to these questions and I bet I will get a lot of negative comments because these question don't follow the current narrative of the liberal media.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

Nope, didn't miss it at all. Are you less dead if killed by a mentally ill person than by a sane one?

Never mind......

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

Yeah right. Proof?

Here is a start.
Is Live PD Fake? Getting The Truth About The A&E TV Show | Empty Lighthouse Magazine

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Here is a start.
Is Live PD Fake? Getting The Truth About The A&E TV Show | Empty Lighthouse Magazine

Not good enough. Faces are not blurred nor need to be blurred on a live news program. Watch your oval news reporting, are all the faces blurred?

Cameras? There are plenty of problems with the video and audio.

Captions? I don’t know what the issue is with captions.

Your cite is rejected as a poorly written article.

[Justus]

Originally Posted by 8notes

I agree. The most recent shooting comes to mind, when the person with mental illness was wielding a kitchen knife. Wouldn't it be nice if that person had been able to come home to his family.

Probably not.

[kenoc7]

Originally Posted by Jima64

maybe bad guys should not threaten civilians or police officers. tasers are also very unreliable as to affect on a person that is stoned or high on drugs, or wearing thick clothing.

A lot of the people, especially black people, who have been shot/killed by police weren';t threatening anyone. In fact, some of them were running away from the police.

[Justus]

An eye-opening solution to those people who don't understand the life-threatening situations every LEO faces every day would be a ride-along in the inner city with an LEO. Mind you, as a passenger, you are required to be weaponless, merely a spectator to events. What you will see as a captive audience may change the way you view this issue. Your life depends on the decisions made by the officer or officers at the scene. In a split second you could be the victim. If the officer doesn't shoot to kill within the 3 seconds he has to react, you are next in line...a lame duck sitting in a squad car, waiting for the drugged up or mentally ill person with the knife to decide your fate.

[rjm1cc]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

After a lifetime in law enforcement and the military the main preamble to firing at a deadly threat is shoot until the threat is neutralized. That means totally neutralized. BTW: Who decides in a nano second of reaction time which officer should shoot first?

Yes and that is why I think people with experience have to set the policy. But remember the bullets that are fired have to go someplace and do present a risk to anyone in the area. Thus as a layman I would lean toward less firing when possible.

[rjm1cc]

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr

True this guy had mental illness and the police knew it as they had been to his house several times. But does that mean that they should allow him to kill or injure one of them?

When faced with a death threat it's either him or me. What would you have done?

The fact that they knew he had mental illness could mean the risk to the police was higher as he could not be reasoned with easily.

[rjm1cc]

Originally Posted by Saluce

So your example is to designate one officer to pull their weapon in a situation where there is a armed threat?!?!?! What like enie meany miney Mo you get to shoot?!?!?
If only situations were that well planned out in real life situations. It only takes one second and your dead!!!
I get what your saying, but that would be an impossible scenario In a real life situation.

It would have to be a situation where they were trying to talk down the person. The sniper would have his gun drawn and aimed during the confirmation and would be providing protection to the other officers. Should reduce the number of bullets being fired and the risk to by standards.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by 8notes

Why don't police carry tasers? They are a weapon, can be used at a distance, like pepper spray, and are less lethal than guns. Through the end of September 2020, over 700 people have been shot and killed by police, an increasing trend.

The answer my friend is robotic police (robocops). They will be crude at first and will be like bomb finding robots that are guided by operators. But, with ALL the problems that society is having recently with police over-reaction, some SOLUTION needs to be found. The Federal Government could devote a lot of grant money to universities and industry to increase the rate of adoption of robotics to crime prevention. A robot has NO fear of being killed, so they could be more likely to use non-lethal force on a criminal than a human would. The problem of overly protective unions would be eliminated. Industry HAS already eliminated many boring, repetitive jobs and substituted technology, A.I., and robotics for improved results at less costs. It has already happened! The future is closer than most people realize. Many will believe that this opinion is "pie in the sky". I just put it out there as a possible solution. It will require maximum Government commitment.

[Kdixon1260]

That guy with “a mental Illness “ had a violent rap sheet”. And continued to advance on officers! Maybe you heard about the knife wielding Muslim that killed three people in the French church the other day. A knife is just as deadly as a gun! Until we are in the shoes of a police officer paid to protect us, don’t question his life saving decisions of returning to his family!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by New Englander

What would you do if you were the officer and a crazed man with a knife is coming at you? I know I would shoot to kill.

Depends on how much TIME before he got to me and could I run to get more time. If I could NOT retreat, I would fire a warning shot 1st and if he kept coming I would try to hit a leg. If there was no TIME and no possible backing away, then I would shoot for the chest. So it depends!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by maggie1

Depending on the type and quality of the taser unit, they can cost upwards of $1000, but most are around half that. Using a taser on a suspect who is under the influence of meth, and/or other drugs of abuse is a crapshoot as to whether or not it will be effective. Here's a video of two PA state troopers trying to affect an arrest of a man stopped for suspected impaired driving. They eventually had to use a taser, but as you'll see, it had limited effect, and the guy ended up shooting both troopers.

PA TROOPERS SHOOTING 2017 - YouTube

The two posters who went through the police and FBI training programs provide a good description of why police shoot to kill. There is no shoot to wound - when faced with deadly force, it's your life, or the life of the assailent.

If attacked with a knife (not talking a gun), you MAY? have enough time to run away, if you are fast enough. Fight OR flight, sometimes you have options.

[Bjeanj]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Depends on how much TIME before he got to me and could I run to get more time. If I could NOT retreat, I would fire a warning shot 1st and if he kept coming I would try to hit a leg. If there was no TIME and no possible backing away, then I would shoot for the chest. So it depends!

And exactly where would you fire that warning shot? That bullet will go somewhere, probably hitting someone else.