[Taltarzac725]

This morning I was booted off the Florida Library Association Facebook page again. FLA Home Page https://www.facebook.com/FloridaLibraryAssociation

I used to volunteer at the Palm Harbor Library from 2000-2003 but quit because of problems I had with their Library Director Gene Coppola.

These were mainly centered around my 224 613 Project of trying to get practical materials into libraries for survivors/victims of crimes. It was OK for a while but soon after I quit volunteering a link to the Florida Victim Services Directory became one to the Lemon Law site on the Florida Attorney General's web-site. This is not the Florida Victim Services Directory. Victim Services Directory Florida Attorney General - Lemon Law (main page)


Gene Coppola insisted it was. His reference staff agreed with me that it was not.

I sent some factual e-mails arguing the point. The result was a March 2, 2004 certified letter from the Palm Harbor Library General Counsel threatening me with a lawsuit and blacklist from volunteering threat if I did not Cease and Desist with my "derogatory and libelous" e-mails. Pure BS on the part of this lawyer but I did not hire my own lawyer because my Mom still volunteered at this public library-- Palm Harbor Library.

Now they are using a poster with Gene Coppola-- the present President of the Florida Library Association-- to recruit volunteers at the Florida Library Association annual meeting. https://www.facebook.com/FloridaLibr...type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/FloridaLibr...51914891587951

I pointed this all out on the Florida Library Association Facebook page and was again booted off the Facebook Group.

Seeing this man just angers me because of this bogus March 2, 2004 lawsuit and blacklist threat and I still have a very high opinion of public librarians even if I have met some that belong more in some other profession and not in anything involving access to information, education and ethics. I also really dislike bullies especially if dishonest.

[fred53]

"These were mainly centered around my 224 613 Project of trying to get practical materials into libraries for survivors/victims of crimes"

Belongs in the city/town hall, YMCA's...does not belong in a Library.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by fred53

"These were mainly centered around my 224 613 Project of trying to get practical materials into libraries for survivors/victims of crimes"

Belongs in the city/town hall, YMCA's...does not belong in a Library.

Actually I have a lot of letters from librarians in all fields saying the same thing that we should have practical materials for survivors/victims of crimes. Gene Coppola-- the first time I met him after a few weeks he was there around July(?) of 2000-- told me that I had a worthwhile cause but that he wanted 50% of whatever work the Palm Harbor Library did on this. He also started his first meeting with me with the sentence "I do not like liars and whiners". So, I was not very happy about his offer of taking 50% of my 224 613 Project. You do not open a first meeting with such a sentence especially when he knew I had a MLS (MA in Librarianship) along with a JD; unless you are trying to get someone to eventually leave.

The Palm Harbor Library now has very valuable materials for survivors/victims of crimes which I guess date from the Ray Lewis Domestic Violence scandal. There are from 2014. Palm Harbor Library Research Ray Lewis talks about covering up crimes - SBNation.com

They should be in Town Halls, YWCAs, YMCAs, Elks, etc., and I have written all of these groups at some time or another with this suggestion. I have been using e-mails heavily since 1999 in this 224 613 Project.

Check my Taltarzac725 Photobucket array by Googling "Taltarzac725" which should bring up the documents and other stuff about the 224 613 Project like that Palm Harbor Library General Counsel letter dated March 2, 2004 which is copied into Gene Coppola. I had no desire to meet with this lawyer and Gene Coppola. I like transparency in my dealings with librarians and politicians and dislike backroom politics.

[themachoman]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Actually I have a lot of letters from librarians in all fields saying the same thing that we should have practical materials for survivors/victims of crimes. Gene Coppola-- the first time I met him after a few weeks he was there around July(?) of 2000-- told me that I had a worthwhile cause but that he wanted 50% of whatever work the Palm Harbor Library did on this. He also started his first meeting with me with the sentence "I do not like liars and whiners". So, I was not very happy about his offer of taking 50% of my 224 613 Project. You do not open a first meeting with such a sentence especially when he knew I had a MLS (MA in Librarianship) along with a JD; unless you are trying to get someone to eventually leave.

The Palm Harbor Library now has very valuable materials for survivors/victims of crimes which I guess date from the Ray Lewis Domestic Violence scandal. There are from 2014. Palm Harbor Library Research Ray Lewis talks about covering up crimes - SBNation.com

They should be in Town Halls, YWCAs, YMCAs, Elks, etc., and I have written all of these groups at some time or another with this suggestion. I have been using e-mails heavily since 1999 in this 224 613 Project.

Check my Taltarzac725 Photobucket array by Googling "Taltarzac725" which should bring up the documents and other stuff about the 224 613 Project like that Palm Harbor Library General Counsel letter dated March 2, 2004 which is copied into Gene Coppola. I had no desire to meet with this lawyer and Gene Coppola. I like transparency in my dealings with librarians and politicians and dislike backroom politics.

One of the Golden Rules for being a good employee (paid or volunteer) is to make your boss look good. Doesn't normally work to well for whiners and complainers who refuse to go with the flow.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by themachoman

One of the Golden Rules for being a good employee (paid or volunteer) is to make your boss look good. Doesn't normally work to well for whiners and complainers who refuse to go with the flow.

If the boss is dishonest? The just prior Palm Harbor Library Director, Lou Paolilli, was forced out by a group of staff and volunteers because he bullied a staff member. I was not a volunteer at that time. Did use the Library back then as a person with a library card. Northpinellas: Library gets new director

Coppola's selection last week by the Palm Harbor Community Services Agency brings closure to the controversial resignation of the last director, Lou Paolilli.

Paolilli was criticized after firing a 76-year-old employee who worked in the children's section.

On Dec. 2, Carol Cannella, a 10-year employee, was drinking a cup of coffee in the library break room 15 minutes before she was due to begin work when Paolilli asked her to report to her station.

When Cannella said she wanted to finish her coffee first, Paolilli fired her and ordered her off the property. He called sheriff's deputies and told them that Cannella was a former employee who was trespassing at the library.

About a half-dozen employees resigned in protest over Cannella's treatment.

Paolilli stepped down in early February, saying he was leaving for personal reasons. Coppola, currently the branch manager at the Land O'Lakes Library, said he was aware of the Paolilli situation but did not want to discuss it.

"All I can say is that different managers have a different way of handling situations," he said.

This a public library which is paid for by tax dollars from the people in that community not a private company of some company on the stock exchange.

And in 2004, I was no longer a volunteer at either of the Palm Harbor nor the East Lake Community Library. I had quit doing this from both.

There is a lot more to the Paolilli mess than what is in the paper but I no longer have all those details.

[villagetinker]

OP, I guess that I missed something, but can you provide a short discussion to why this is on TOTV, and why I should care? There are multiple websites and organizations to provide information to victims of crimes, and several local resources, so I do not understand this post. Also, what is the 224 613 project that is constantly mentioned?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

OP, I guess that I missed something, but can you provide a short discussion to why this is on TOTV, and why I should care? There are multiple websites and organizations to provide information to victims of crimes, and several local resources, so I do not understand this post. Also, what is the 224 613 project that is constantly mentioned?

I have been on Talk of the Villages since July 2007 and have mentioned my connection to the 2-24-1976 murder of my then Earl Wooster High School English teacher's daughter Michelle Mitchell often on TOTV.

You only need watch the Evening News to see that the needs of victims/survivors of crimes change with technology, world affairs, etc.


As to why this is important to people who live in the Villages? Check your local libraries web-sites as well as those of the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Sheriff's Offices. How many quick links do they have to the Florida Victim Services Directory and stuff from the National Alliance on Mental Illness? These say that victims/survivors are welcomed here, in essence.

And, of course, there are many victims/survivors sites out there. That's not the point. The point is how connected to the community these libraries and the sheriffs' offices are.

And there are many people who are still not all that computer savvy and rely on public libraries, 911, 411, and other points of access to practical information.

I have been working very hard on Facebook to make connections between various groups.

[outlaw]

It's listed under NON villages discussion. I assume that is any subject not related to TV.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by outlaw

It's listed under NON villages discussion. I assume that is any subject not related to TV.

Washoe County Sheriff's Office - Northern Nevada's Full Service Law Enforcement Agency

Here is what is available in a community where I used to live with respect to Staying Safe.

Contrast that with what is on the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Sheriff's Offices.

Or, how about the Lake, Marion, and Sumter County Library sites?

Over the years I have been fighting for more practical information in or accessible through libraries I have heard all kinds of suggestions from the very mean spirited to the very useful. One of the useful ones was - KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid.

Links should be easy to use and easy to spot as there are like road signs on a highway and you might miss the turnoff if this is not marked well.

On Memorial Day of 2007, the then Villages Daily Sun reporter Gary Corsair's article on my efforts to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to the Marion, Lake and Sumter Library web-sites came out. I had been successful with Lake County back then but they seemed to have changed things the last I looked to something you need assistance from the a librarian to use. Lake County, FL - Community Resource Guide

Victim Services Directory

Some of the Villages is in Lake County.

[Polar Bear]

I agree that all is fair game in the non Villages forum. But I also understand villagetinker's comment. This does seem to be a very personal issue for the op.

[Chi-Town]

I view the OP'S repetitive referral to his 224 613 project circumstances as an attempt to get some closure on a situation that has gone on for decades. I wish him luck with that.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

I view the OP'S repetitive referral to his 224 613 project circumstances as an attempt to get some closure on a situation that has gone on for decades. I wish him luck with that.

Not exactly. And it involves a lot more than just me. I wish people would see that.

In law school at the University of Minnesota, there was a brilliant trial lawyer who taught evidence. I had someone else as I could not get into the Evidence Course taught by him as the 3rd Years had the first choices of what courses to take to meet their Graduation requirements.

This trial lawyer was Irving Younger. Probably one of best trial lawyers in New York at one time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Younger

He held out that trial practice was akin to theater. The best story teller will win the case.

If you make the Jurors though very educated people about the law, that makes this approach a lot harder.

The same can be said of survivors/victims. Access to more timely and practical information gives them more power over things that they cannot control. I became a law librarian to do something about a niche I saw in practical information in libraries while trying to follow the Michelle Mitchell murder investigation which it turns out was messed up thoroughly by people trying to get closure too fast as they convicted the wrong person around 1979 based on her false confession. She was a paranoid schizophrenic and if I recall correctly part of a gay couple. I am fuzzy on the details as this is about what is in libraries and accessible over the Internet right now. Charges Dismissed Against Cathy Woods for 1976 Murder

[Chi-Town]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Not exactly. And it involves a lot more than just me. I wish people would see that.

In law school at the University of Minnesota, there was a brilliant trial lawyer who taught evidence. I had someone else as I could not get into the Evidence Course taught by him as the 3rd Years had the first choices of what courses to take to meet their Graduation requirements.

This trial lawyer was Irving Younger. Probably one of best trial lawyers in New York at one time.

He held out that trial practice was akin to theater. The best story teller will win the case.

If you make the Jurors though very educated people about the law, that makes this approach a lot harder.

The same can be said of survivors/victims. Access to more timely and practical information gives them more power over things that they cannot control. I became a law librarian to do something about a niche I saw in practical information in libraries while trying to follow the Michelle Mitchell murder investigation which it turns out was messed up thoroughly by people trying to get closure too fast as they convicted the wrong person around 1979 based on her false confession. She was a paranoid schizophrenic and if I recall correctly part of a gay coulple. I am fuzzy on the details as this is about what is in libraries and accessible over the Internet right now.

OK, thanks for the clarification.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Chi-Town

OK, thanks for the clarification.

You are welcome. http://www.minnesotalawreview.org/wp...rodt_Final.pdf

I had Donald Marshall for Evidence and Torts.

Hard but fair teacher.

I remember that he was one of the University of Minnesota Law Professors fighting for me when I brought up my interest in practical information for survivors/victims of crimes in January of 1991. I got hit with subtle and not so subtle attacks on my mental health from January through September of 1991 by some of the people at the University of Minnesota Law School/Library. The Professors were very split on what to do about me as have many people in institutions I have tried to get involved in my 224 613 Project.

I did not start calling it that until mid-1993. I mean the 224 613 Project after I had been #613 in a study on stress on the unemployed at the University of California San Francisco Health Sciences Campus where I talked about all these experiences up to then with an interviewer/researcher in four taped sessions.

Each community is different though as what is available for survivors/victims in the Twin Cities is going to be different from what is there for them in Lake, Sumter, and Marion counties in the Villages' area.

Facebook allows me to contact people in hundreds of communities about this 224 613 Project.

And I am involved, of course, in pushing this in Reno, Nevada; the Twin Cities; Denver; Phoenix; Provo, Utah; and many other places. Mostly though I am trying to do it in places I have lived which of course involves the Villages, FL; Palm Harbor, FL; Rohnert Park, CA; Belmont, CA; Scottsdale, AZ; Menomonee Falls, WI; Itasca, IL, etc.

Professor David Weissbrodt was another one of the Law Professors who seemed to be on my side at least his Teaching Assistant around 1991 told me to never give up on this fight, which I have not. Hard for Professor Weissbrodt to support me back then as he flunked me in Moot Court because I sort of defended the wrong person in my brief in an extremely complicated disabilities case which even seemed to confuse some of the Judges hearing us Students presenting it.

[looneycat]

this all seems moot. with the advent of the internet a simple query would make this info available. why would I go to a library first when I can seek the info directly...this sounds like a cervantean quest to me....