[CoachKandSportsguy]

Originally Posted by Gene63

We have a Subaru and it has that feature. Wish that I could permanently shut it off but instead, I have to cut it off each time I start the engine. I understand why they put it on, in order to save gas, but I figured it up one day that it saved me about a half of a gallon per year. That’s all well and good but it will cost a whole lot more to replace the starter when it wears out then all the gas that it saved. Not a helpful or appreciated feature!

exactly correct. . the only place its useful is in places like NYC, New Jersey or other highly urban locations, where there are lots of stop lights and stop signs, low realized speed limits, thus high idling times which creates alot of CO pollution for the area.

mostly for selling environmental feel good additions but little realized actual gains.

Everyone wants to have feel good decisions, which product marketing understands and exploits to their advantage. there is no free lunch, maybe once here or there, but never consistently

[DBChris]

I’ve had many cars with this feature, however it freaked me out when it happened on my manual transmission sports car. Now I hit the button to deactivate it on the console

[retiredguy123]

Personally, I don't think the dislike for the stop-start feature has anything to do with fuel savings, emissions, battery life, or starter life. A lot of people just don't like it because they want the vehicle to keep running until they turn it off. This feature will be doomed by popular demand.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

Personally, I don't think the dislike for the stop-start feature has anything to do with fuel savings, emissions, battery life, or starter life. A lot of people just don't like it because they want the vehicle to keep running until they turn it off. This feature will be doomed by popular demand.

Good point. It's all about control. "I decide!"

[daveczo]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Do you like it or hate it?



Does the Start/Stop Function Really Improve Your Car’s Fuel Economy? - Consumer Reports

I love it, works perfectly on our Buick.

[BunnyA]

Originally Posted by Omycherie

I turn it off every time I get in the car. I hate it. I’m looking for a way to shut it off completely.

No one could have disliked it as much as me. Our new Subaru would try to restart with foot still on brake at red light and jerk the car, startling me. Twice in dealer, they said nothing they could do so I looked online and found Autostop Eliminator. My son who isn’t particularly handy was able to install after watching the video and I’m a happy camper every time I start the car now. Wish I hadn’t had to pay for an issue that dealer doesn’t recognize but it was worth it.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by BunnyA

No one could have disliked it as much as me. Our new Subaru would try to restart with foot still on brake at red light and jerk the car, startling me. Twice in dealer, they said nothing they could do so I looked online and found Autostop Eliminator. My son who isn’t particularly handy was able to install after watching the video and I’m a happy camper every time I start the car now. Wish I hadn’t had to pay for an issue that dealer doesn’t recognize but it was worth it.

There's something wrong with that, and your dealer doesn't know how to deal with it. Every car we either rented or owned in Europe for decades had the feature, and never once did that happen.

Off topic, but another feature those European cars had was that they held on a hill. Growing up in Pittsburgh (one hill after another), I would have been a really happy camper with that feature.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by BunnyA

No one could have disliked it as much as me. Our new Subaru would try to restart with foot still on brake at red light and jerk the car, startling me. Twice in dealer, they said nothing they could do so I looked online and found Autostop Eliminator. My son who isn’t particularly handy was able to install after watching the video and I’m a happy camper every time I start the car now. Wish I hadn’t had to pay for an issue that dealer doesn’t recognize but it was worth it.

My cars will do that for three reasons:
1. With the engine stopped it is running off the battery and the battery is getting low. This was common with the hybrid.
2. The AC is on and the evaporator is getting warm so the engine needs to run to make it cooler. This is common with the Audi.
3. I don’t hold the brake down firmly enough so the car thinks I’m releasing the brake. The car often lurches a bit in this case since the brakes aren’t firmly engaged.

[MorTech]

I think the bureaucrat that mandated Auto Stop/Start (ASS) should be put in prison in El Salvador but first waterboarded at Gitmo.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Post #29

So your one experience with 60K and 5 years sets standard for world? 5 years long time for most vehicle owners. Majority trade around 3 years. Why? They don’t want financial responsibility for repairs after warranty.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

So your one experience with 60K and 5 years sets standard for world? 5 years long time for most vehicle owners. Majority trade around 3 years. Why? They don’t want financial responsibility for repairs after warranty.

You need to follow your own argument. You asserted that within a few years this feature would result in the need for a new starter (and something about electronics). I pointed out that I have over five years and over 60,000 miles on each of three vehicles.

I'm not trying to set a standard, I am disputing that a standard exists. I can't prove that a starter will never go bad due to this system but I *can* prove that this system will not always kill a starter.

Your post and others have claimed the feature will cause starter failure. My experience alone shows that is not always the case. This thread is generally hostile to this feature yet no one has reported needing to replace their starter. In a quick search I found several articles debunking that claim and zero article supporting it.

No, my experience does not set a standard for the world, it just seems to be the common experience. Your assertion also does not set a standard for the world but can you point to anything that supports it?

[CarlR33]

Toyota Prius seemed to perfect this feature (you did not know it was working) with the hybrid. I agree, the other manufacturers missed the boat as it’s loud and annoying with the steering on some going numb with the motor off. As others have said if the YouTube video does not work for your vehicle you need to research it and most likely need an OBD reader (cost vary) to plug into the vehicle computer and an app (another cost if not free) for your phone to communicate through your vehicles computer options to disable it. I just did a similar procedure to turn off the loud inside car reverse alarm on my car.

[Bwanajim]

Just bought a Hyundai with it and I hate it. Turned it off immediately. What happens if your battery goes dead when you're at a red light?

[tophcfa]

Stop start feature? I stop considering buying a car that has it and start considering one that doesn’t.