[Barefoot]

I was expecting a lot of discussion about the on-going Conrad Murray Trial. I did a Search, but perhaps I missed the threads.

So far the evidence seems to point to negligence on the part of Conrad Murray, however I'm sure he didn't intentionally kill Michael. Poor Michael spent his life fighting his demons and trying to become a "better" person through plastic surgery. I think he looked way better pre surgery. He apparently weighed just 115 lbs when he died. On a more positive note, his kids seem to be doing very well.

Poor Michael, what a sad ending for a super star.

[graciegirl]

Helene is watching it Bare and reporting to us as she did a lot with the Casey Anthony trial. Then we were packing and now we are unpacking.

Conrad Murray looks so sad in the shots I see of him on the news. Here I think is a man who who was taken in by fame and used to help the ongoing chemical addictions of this famous person. I think Michael Jackson was a very unusual person with many good and kind traits and some problems that he was really in denial about.

He must have been a good father. We may never know if he was a pedophile, but it is pretty obvious that he was terribly addicted to drugs.

[eweissenbach]

Not to be argumentative, but I couldn't care less. MJ, like many celebrities was overhyped in life, and now overhyped in death. I have known numerouos wonderful people, without demons, that have and will never have been known beyond their circle of family and friends but who led far more positive lives than many of these "celebrities".

[Oren L Miller]

Did the world forget that he was a pedophile? What am I missing?

[eweissenbach]

Originally Posted by Oren L Miller

Did the world forget that he was a pedophile? What am I missing?

I really hesitate to comment for fear of sparking another michael vick vs. the judicial system debate...........but, what you may be missing is that he was never convicted of pedophilia. Now you and I may choose to beleive, based on the limited evidence we have been allowed to see, that he was a pedophile, but I am confident there are other people who see him as a gentle father figure to young people.

[Oren L Miller]

When you pay people off it smacks of I did it to me.

[ladydoc]

I have been listening on and off and the part I can not understand is why an MD had to ask if anyone knew CPR? Didn't he know how to do it?

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by Oren L Miller

Did the world forget that he was a pedophile? What am I missing?

That is how I feel about Casey Anthony. I feel that she murdered her daughter, but that doesn't matter, because a jury found her innocent.

You're missing the fact that he wasn't a pedophile! Perhaps he was a pedophile in your judgment, but he was found innocent. I'm not a Michael Jackson fan at all. I think he was a weird, conflicted drug addict who really made some inappropriate choices, and felt that abnormal behavior was OK.
But I do think he was a gentle spirit, that he loved children and wouldn't abuse them, and that he raised three good kids.

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by ladydoc

I have been listening on and off and the part I can not understand is why an MD had to ask if anyone knew CPR? Didn't he know how to do it?

Yes, it's unbelievable he wouldn't know how to do CPR. And he was a cardiologist! Apparently he was doing CPR on the bed with one hand. Obviously he missed the CPR seminar!

[zcaveman]

Originally Posted by ladydoc

I have been listening on and off and the part I can not understand is why an MD had to ask if anyone knew CPR? Didn't he know how to do it?

Maybe he wanted someone to take over so he could do other things - like cover up what MJ did and now he is in a world of s**t.

I doubt if we will ever know the truth.

But then this is what are tabloids are for.

[Barefoot]

[QUOTE=graciegirl;401469]Helene is watching it Bare and reporting to us as she did a lot with the Casey Anthony trial.
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What does Helene think about the trial so far?

[EdV]

I think the reason for the lack of interest in this trial is that it pales in comparison to the drama, cast of characters, and twists and turns that surrounded the Anthony trial. If the Anthony case was not real but was instead a fictionalized novel, it would undoubtedly be a national best seller.

Although it’s true that Jackson was never convicted, he did admit in a nationally telivised interview to having young boys sleep in his bed with him and openly stated that he didn’t see anything wrong with that.

And the victim in the Anthony case was a beautiful innocent child, not an aging pop star with strange habits and an even stranger lifestyle.

[SueTheSkeptic]

To this former RN, it was unbelievable that an MD who took the Hippocratic oath would totally abandon his ethics and administer a powerful medication used in general anesthesia (!) in an unmonitored setting with no plan for resuscitation!

But only unbelievable until I read that he was being paid >$100,000/month! Ethics didn't stand a chance!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by SueTheSkeptic

To this former RN, it was unbelievable that an MD who took the Hippocratic oath would totally abandon his ethics and administer a powerful medication used in general anesthesia (!) in an unmonitored setting with no plan for resuscitation!

But only unbelievable until I read that he was being paid >$100,000/month! Ethics didn't stand a chance!

And figure in that he reportedly was a huge...HUGE fan. I will never understand that part of it or the kind of power fame gives people.