[Kgcetm]

We hired them and can and will fire them. We don’t want the office of County Commissioner to become a small pond for breeding fish wanting to move to the filthy cesspool in Washington DC.

[Guitarman1951]

Much todo about nothing is what my thought is. The more important issue were the animals they are trying to help.

[Jokomo]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

In the Daily Sun is an article on a violation of the state's Sunshine Law, and actually is the second violation by one of these newly elected County Commissioners. One of those elected on the platform that they were going to correct the ills of the crony corrupt system. Seems Oren Miller's wife has been acting as a go between for him and other commissioners in regards to county business. Clear violation of the Sunshine Law. I've never held public office and I know what the Sunshine Law is all about, doesn't take a constitutional expert.
The topic was about forming an animal advocacy group, which happened 6 days before the proposal was aired publicly in a county meeting. A clear violation of the law. At the public meeting Miller proposed the formation of an animal advocacy group comprised by his wife, at least 2 of her personal friends and Gary Search to "mediate" their work. I wonder, are these paid positions? Will there be a budget for this advocacy group will this group will be allowed to use the funds where they determine it is necessary?
This couple in 2018 was also fined $642 for violation of campaign finance laws for his failed campaign for state representative, where his wife was the treasurer for the campaign.
The only reasons I can come up with for these innocent mistakes as Miller called them, is stupidity, gross ignorance, arrogance or willful illegal behavior.

This story illustrates one of the truisms I learned during a very public career:
Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel.

[Girlcopper]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

In the Daily Sun is an article on a violation of the state's Sunshine Law, and actually is the second violation by one of these newly elected County Commissioners. One of those elected on the platform that they were going to correct the ills of the crony corrupt system. Seems Oren Miller's wife has been acting as a go between for him and other commissioners in regards to county business. Clear violation of the Sunshine Law. I've never held public office and I know what the Sunshine Law is all about, doesn't take a constitutional expert.
The topic was about forming an animal advocacy group, which happened 6 days before the proposal was aired publicly in a county meeting. A clear violation of the law. At the public meeting Miller proposed the formation of an animal advocacy group comprised by his wife, at least 2 of her personal friends and Gary Search to "mediate" their work. I wonder, are these paid positions? Will there be a budget for this advocacy group will this group will be allowed to use the funds where they determine it is necessary?
This couple in 2018 was also fined $642 for violation of campaign finance laws for his failed campaign for state representative, where his wife was the treasurer for the campaign.
The only reasons I can come up with for these innocent mistakes as Miller called them, is stupidity, gross ignorance, arrogance or willful illegal behavior.

Ok. So, The Daily Sun wasted space printing this litany. And no we are subjected to having wasted space here

[Dilligas]

Originally Posted by justjim

Just politics as usual.

How are they any different than those they replaced?

[PugMom]

Originally Posted by Guitarman1951

Much todo about nothing is what my thought is. The more important issue were the animals they are trying to help.

agreed, what happens to the animals who need us?

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

In the Daily Sun is an article on a violation of the state's Sunshine Law, and actually is the second violation by one of these newly elected County Commissioners. One of those elected on the platform that they were going to correct the ills of the crony corrupt system. Seems Oren Miller's wife has been acting as a go between for him and other commissioners in regards to county business. Clear violation of the Sunshine Law. I've never held public office and I know what the Sunshine Law is all about, doesn't take a constitutional expert.
The topic was about forming an animal advocacy group, which happened 6 days before the proposal was aired publicly in a county meeting. A clear violation of the law. At the public meeting Miller proposed the formation of an animal advocacy group comprised by his wife, at least 2 of her personal friends and Gary Search to "mediate" their work. I wonder, are these paid positions? Will there be a budget for this advocacy group will this group will be allowed to use the funds where they determine it is necessary?
This couple in 2018 was also fined $642 for violation of campaign finance laws for his failed campaign for state representative, where his wife was the treasurer for the campaign.
The only reasons I can come up with for these innocent mistakes as Miller called them, is stupidity, gross ignorance, arrogance or willful illegal behavior.

This is not what we need - someone with their personal "pet project". That is not what I voted for.

[diamond2005]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

In the Daily Sun is an article on a violation of the state's Sunshine Law, and actually is the second violation by one of these newly elected County Commissioners. One of those elected on the platform that they were going to correct the ills of the crony corrupt system. Seems Oren Miller's wife has been acting as a go between for him and other commissioners in regards to county business. Clear violation of the Sunshine Law. I've never held public office and I know what the Sunshine Law is all about, doesn't take a constitutional expert.
The topic was about forming an animal advocacy group, which happened 6 days before the proposal was aired publicly in a county meeting. A clear violation of the law. At the public meeting Miller proposed the formation of an animal advocacy group comprised by his wife, at least 2 of her personal friends and Gary Search to "mediate" their work. I wonder, are these paid positions? Will there be a budget for this advocacy group will this group will be allowed to use the funds where they determine it is necessary?
This couple in 2018 was also fined $642 for violation of campaign finance laws for his failed campaign for state representative, where his wife was the treasurer for the campaign.
The only reasons I can come up with for these innocent mistakes as Miller called them, is stupidity, gross ignorance, arrogance or willful illegal behavior.

Ah, The Developer at work!

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Ok. So, The Daily Sun wasted space printing this litany. And no we are subjected to having wasted space here

Lots of posts that I have no interest in so I just scroll by.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Number 10 GI

In the Daily Sun is an article on a violation of the state's Sunshine Law, and actually is the second violation by one of these newly elected County Commissioners. One of those elected on the platform that they were going to correct the ills of the crony corrupt system. Seems Oren Miller's wife has been acting as a go between for him and other commissioners in regards to county business. Clear violation of the Sunshine Law. I've never held public office and I know what the Sunshine Law is all about, doesn't take a constitutional expert.
The topic was about forming an animal advocacy group, which happened 6 days before the proposal was aired publicly in a county meeting. A clear violation of the law. At the public meeting Miller proposed the formation of an animal advocacy group comprised by his wife, at least 2 of her personal friends and Gary Search to "mediate" their work. I wonder, are these paid positions? Will there be a budget for this advocacy group will this group will be allowed to use the funds where they determine it is necessary?
This couple in 2018 was also fined $642 for violation of campaign finance laws for his failed campaign for state representative, where his wife was the treasurer for the campaign.
The only reasons I can come up with for these innocent mistakes as Miller called them, is stupidity, gross ignorance, arrogance or willful illegal behavior.

Originally Posted by diamond2005

Ah, The Developer at work!

Truth is hard to explain away.........

[Cheryl Barrios]

Originally Posted by eyc234

Hey but think about the great animal shelter that will get built with a huge staff and board to be paid with tax money. He should be out and that is it. He was told to stop and he did not. Seems to be an ongoing dishonesty of one of the commissioners.

In my county up north, there were so many violations that the county was considered the most corrupt in the state. It took years to get it cleaned out and was just done so when there was so much criticism and someone was able to convince a local tv station to take notice that two of the commissioners decided not to run again. The state ordered an audit, the county refused, legal mumbo-jumbo, millions of dollars lost or spent on pet projects with kickbacks, it was unbelievable. It may seem like a little issue that involves paying a wife and a couple of her best friends to do something that many would do for free -- but it isn't. It starts out small, they find out what they can get away with, and then it GROWS.

[collie1228]

If you don't like the way the Daily Sun is owned, operated and editorially directed by the developer, you should cancel your subscription. Yes, he buys ink "by the barrel", but if he gets a hit in the pocketbook, he will change his tune. But unfortunately, that will never happen.

[Cheryl Barrios]

Originally Posted by rmd2

This is not what we need - someone with their personal "pet project". That is not what I voted for.

Agreed. She can certainly have a project and go out and solicit donations to fund it. People do it all over the country, actually throughout the world. But she doesn't want to work on her "pet project", she wants to be hired to run it and pay others to do all of the work.

[DougandLaddi]

Kick backs and or favors from contractors are strong incentive towards corruption.

[donassaid]

As a former County Supervisor in Virginia, we had a similar rule but not nearly as strict. With 5 Board Members, the only thing forbidden was if we had a quorum when we met, meaning that any two of us could get together and discuss issues without a public hearing. I think that is a more reasonable position than our "Sunshine laws" that, apparently forbid any personal contact between Commissioners to discuss issues before the Board. However, if that is the law, our Commissioners should abide by it and not try to circumnavigate it. I just wonder if the previous Commissioners got away with private meetings between themselves and/or the Developer.