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KayakerNC 03-14-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 845002)
simply not true
Originally Posted by Average Guy View Post
According to Snopes.com, this is not true.
I'm sorry but it absolutely is true. I make the request to be transferred back to the States whenever necessary and it is done every time.
snopes.com: Foreign Call Centers Must Transfer Customers to U.S. Reps?

According to the last paragraph; "Although the practice is not yet legislatively mandated, some U.S. companies have established policies and procedures of their own that instruct foreign call center operators to transfer calls back to U.S.-based reps upon customer request."

DianeM 03-14-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 845002)

Every time I say that it works like a charm so I guess they don't know it's not true

DianeM 03-14-2014 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DDoug (Post 845009)
Couple things folks when I put that name in my post that is because that was the name the guy gave me(spelling my have been wrong) second why do we always have to give up our country because we don't want to put up with an accent that is hard to understand. Sorry folks but that is the problem with us we put up with something less than we should have to. Say what you will but I was born here I don't have accept something less. This is The U S A why are we giving it away. I'm done I have to take my pills now

You got that right. We are so afraid of being "politically correct" that we're giving it away. Our ancestors must be rolling in their graves.

:bigbow:

quirky3 03-14-2014 11:55 AM

Ancestors of US citizens had accents. ;)

JourneyOfLife 03-14-2014 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 845287)
Ancestors of US citizens had accents. ;)

Depending on where each of us live, we might think each other has an accent the other can't understand...

For example, someone from New England talking with someone from the Deep South.

quirky3 03-14-2014 01:00 PM

Exactly! After all, English is NOT this land's native language.

Golfingnut 03-14-2014 01:10 PM

Big business greed gave it away, so please don't blame a 50 cent an hour employee for this. This is our fault not there's.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-14-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skyguy79 (Post 845043)
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. When I was working as a Motor Vehicle Issuing Office supervisor, we had one nice elderly gentlemen that came in frequently. He was alone, spoke Spanish and couldn't speak a word of English. We had one Spanish speaking employee that worked at our location and this gentleman always asked for Robert so he could be understood and helped.

One day the gentleman came up to me as he usually did and said "Robert?" I felt so bad for him because Robert just got promoted to another part of the state. Sadly, I couldn't even explain to the man about Robert and after several shoulder shrugs and looks of sympathy, I think he got an idea what happened, left and I don't remember if I ever saw the guy again.

On that day I said to myself "Where is this guys friends? Where are his relatives? Why did they not help him? The department was supposed to develop a system of available translators so I could hook them up on our phone to translate for them/us. It never developed by the time I retired and I have no idea if it ever did since then.

So again I hear you about anyone put in that position of not being able to communicate.

Frankly, I'm offended by the idea that my tax dollars are used to pay for translators for people who come to this country and refuse to learn our language. It's also obscene that most if not all of our government forms are printed in multiple languages. I don't believe that there is any other country in
the world that does this unless they have multiple native languages.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 03-14-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 845321)
Exactly! After all, English is NOT this land's native language.


Really? Since when? Are you going to argue that because some dopey congressmen who are afraid of losing some vote refuse to make English our "official" national language, that people in this country haven't spoken primarily English for the past 400 years?

English has always been the native language of this country.

And accents and dialects are a lot different than languages.

Bucco 03-14-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 845327)
Big business greed gave it away, so please don't blame a 50 cent an hour employee for this. This is our fault not there's.


NAFTA started the move 20 years ago


PS...large corporations job...only job..is to make money for its shareholders...that is all of us with IRA's etc. NAFTA was the catalyst for much of this, not all, but that is what gave the impetus.

perrjojo 03-14-2014 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 844452)
Well, it certainly was pleasant to see the tolerance level of some Villagers regarding foreign people.

Your grandkids would be proud of you.

I don't feel it is an intolerance of foreign people. For me it is the belief that our official language is English. When I call customer service I should expect to speak with a person who speaks English fluently. It makes no more sense than hiring a plumber to be a nurse. Their job is to COMMUNICATE and if they cannot be understood, they are NOT communicating; therefore they are not successfully performing their job function.

Bucco 03-14-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 845355)
I don't feel it is an intolerance of foreign people. For me it is the belief that our official language is English. When I call customer service I should expect to speak with a person who speaks English fluently. It makes no more sense than hiring a plumber to be a nurse. Their job is to COMMUNICATE and if they cannot be understood, they are NOT communicating; therefore they are not successfully performing their job function.

The United States has NO official language. Some states have adopted that stance.

Our government says we must provide access to those who do not speak english

Golfingnut 03-14-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 845354)
NAFTA started the move 20 years ago


PS...large corporations job...only job..is to make money for its shareholders...that is all of us with IRA's etc. NAFTA was the catalyst for much of this, not all, but that is what gave the impetus.

I never understood NAFTA, but it did seem wrong tome.

Bucco 03-14-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 845387)
I never understood NAFTA, but it did seem wrong tome.

As I said, NAFTA was the beginning of, or at least an attempt, to begin a world wide economy. An agreement between US, Canada and Mexico to trade as a bloc. Some say it cost jobs, and some say it added jobs. Company I worked for closed a very large manufacturing site to move it to Mexico as a result of NAFTA.

But, I use that as only the beginings. There are many factors to this discussion.

One, and one I think is important is our tax code. The last few elections we have heard a lot of lip service given to this subject....but NO action We actually charged the committee put together to discuss the budget deficit with also looking at the tax code. After millions of dollars and lots of effort, the committee report was thrown aside and just not discussed, I assume because it did not fit a political agenda.

We need to fix the tax code first.

We are not going to protect american jobs until we do that, PLUS convince americans to take some of these lower paying jobs, and or provide incentives to companies to keep these jobs here.

It is not simple, and simply making fun or and throwing stones at large corportations is just plan silly and ill advised. They are doing their jobs...our government is not. Watch for tax overhaul debates in the election cycle and pay attention.

DianeM 03-14-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 845287)
Ancestors of US citizens had accents. ;)

Absolutely. The call takers in foreign countries that do not live here are not citizens.


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