[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by opinionist

If tariffs can replace the income tax, then I say bring it on.
If tariffs can help bring jobs back from overseas, I say bring it on.

It is true that manufacturing jobs need to be brought back to the US, but that won't happen instantly. It looks like there will be a period of economic PAIN on the horizon.

[Two Bills]

[Normal]

Originally Posted by Stryker

It’s really very simple. If we have to pay more money to cover the tariffs, it’s a bad thing.

Perhaps, others just call the higher prices “inflation”.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by Normal

Perhaps, others just call the higher prices “inflation”.

😱 NO!

That is certainly one part of the spiraling domino effect that is inflation.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by PeteF

About a week ago, I had to replace (under warranty) the charger for my Lithium Ion Golf Cart Battery.

The Chinese company was great . They shipped me a new charger from China within two days, and it arrived 4 days after they shipped it ... Air express via UPS.

Surprise, when UPS delivered the charger there was a $15 Tariff due (20% of the $75 charger valuation) and UPS tacked on another $15 service charge.

Obviously I was a bit surprised by this, especially the $15 service charge from UPS on a $15 Tariff.

As the economist and financial people have been saying ... US people and companies pay the tariff when the goods land ... its not a paid by Chinese companies. Additional, nobody has talked about the service charges that the shipping companies are imposing.

Just a little heads up if you are expecting a shipment directly from China.

Please note: I am not saying that Tariffs are good or bad policy - that needs to be decided by people with a lot more Tariff knowledge and experience than I have. This post is meant as just a heads up on what you might experience should you order directly from China.

Interesting. I suppose the service charge was because UPS had to figure out the amount, charge it, and send the money to the government. It’s possible that the service charge would be the same even if the amount of the purchase were much higher, as it costs no more to collect and pass on $100 than to do the same with $15.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by MandoMan

Interesting. I suppose the service charge was because UPS had to figure out the amount, charge it, and send the money to the government. It’s possible that the service charge would be the same even if the amount of the purchase were much higher, as it costs no more to collect and pass on $100 than to do the same with $15.

Hmm? Tips don't work that way. Maybe they should? Just a thought.

[justjim]

Tariffs are mostly “smoke and mirrors” and so are the so called federal employees buyout and layoffs. All sounds good and plays with a lot of Americans. However, you have to look at the Federal Budget closer to see where the most money is spent. It’s Defense programs and Entitlement programs such as S.S. and Medicare. It appears that most don’t want to touch the “entitlement programs”. The Defense Department is a slippery slope also. We cannot afford to let our military down. With inability to reduce the budget significantly and reduction of taxes being proposed we will be adding significantly to the deficit. Does anybody care about the deficit our children and grandchildren are going to face in the not too distant future? Fore.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by justjim

Tariffs are mostly “smoke and mirrors” and so are the so called federal employees buyout and layoffs. All sounds good and plays with a lot of Americans. However, you have to look at the Federal Budget closer to see where the most money is spent. It’s Defense programs and Entitlement programs such as S.S. and Medicare. It appears that most don’t want to touch the “entitlement programs”. The Defense Department is a slippery slope also. We cannot afford to let our military down. With inability to reduce the budget significantly and reduction of taxes being proposed we will be adding significantly to the defect. Does anybody care about the defect our children and grandchildren are going to face in the not too distant future? Fore.

I was employed by the Federal Government for 35 years. A 10 percent reduction in the number of employees is way too low. I would reduce it by 80 percent and that would save a huge amount of money.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I was employed by the Federal Government for 35 years. A 10 percent reduction in the number of employees is way too low. I would reduce it by 80 percent and that would save a huge amount of money.

I was employed by the Federal Government for 34 years. My experience was diametrically different than yours.

[J1ceasar]

as per title - the mail service may be slower , BUT there is an exclusion up to $800 so no duty is paid nor form fees.. that's why temu and shein are so big ...

( 40 year importer )

Originally Posted by PeteF

About a week ago, I had to replace (under warranty) the charger for my Lithium Ion Golf Cart Battery.

The Chinese company was great . They shipped me a new charger from China within two days, and it arrived 4 days after they shipped it ... Air express via UPS.

Surprise, when UPS delivered the charger there was a $15 Tariff due (20% of the $75 charger valuation) and UPS tacked on another $15 service charge.

Obviously I was a bit surprised by this, especially the $15 service charge from UPS on a $15 Tariff.

As the economist and financial people have been saying ... US people and companies pay the tariff when the goods land ... its not a paid by Chinese companies. Additional, nobody has talked about the service charges that the shipping companies are imposing.

Just a little heads up if you are expecting a shipment directly from China.

Please note: I am not saying that Tariffs are good or bad policy - that needs to be decided by people with a lot more Tariff knowledge and experience than I have. This post is meant as just a heads up on what you might experience should you order directly from China.

[Larryandlinda]

Y’all think the sewer known as Amazon is huge?
Alibaba and others could fit them in their pockets.
For decades the USPS ( which is operating in low if any profit) has been pandering to China with basically free postage once the item hits our shores.
We avoid places like Walmart and Amazon aggressively since low prices have a high cost and they are strangling small businesses like our bicycle store, a 2.5 person operation for 45 years.
For household goods and many items for the store we go straight to away and hook up with independent people like us.
Sometimes , rarely, an Amazon fulfillment sends the item but that’s life.

[Cliff Fr]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Unless those American goods use imported materials (steel, aluminum, avocados, etc).

Plus, even if the materials come from American producers, a tariff on a competing import is a free ticket for the American producer to increase prices. Sure, I don't pay the tariff, but my wallet is still lighter.

We used to grow avocados here in Florida until so many people moved here

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Originally Posted by PeteF

About a week ago, I had to replace (under warranty) the charger for my Lithium Ion Golf Cart Battery.

The Chinese company was great . They shipped me a new charger from China within two days, and it arrived 4 days after they shipped it ... Air express via UPS.

Surprise, when UPS delivered the charger there was a $15 Tariff due (20% of the $75 charger valuation) and UPS tacked on another $15 service charge.

Obviously I was a bit surprised by this, especially the $15 service charge from UPS on a $15 Tariff.

As the economist and financial people have been saying ... US people and companies pay the tariff when the goods land ... its not a paid by Chinese companies. Additional, nobody has talked about the service charges that the shipping companies are imposing.

Just a little heads up if you are expecting a shipment directly from China.

Please note: I am not saying that Tariffs are good or bad policy - that needs to be decided by people with a lot more Tariff knowledge and experience than I have. This post is meant as just a heads up on what you might experience should you order directly from China.

I do not claim to be a tariff expert. If,it was due to a Tarriff, a bit of a surprise that it got to you from China that quickly. The company that sent you the replacement probably knew and had the necessary paperwork completed so the package was not opened.

Many years ago. Truth many many years ago, I worked for a place that sold lab equipment. Orders going overseas, often customers would tell us to remove stuff with high tarries on it and pack and bill them separate. For example if high tariff on a changer you would ship the cart and ship the charger as a separate item.

We've probably all ordered stuff from China. HUH? Never paid duty.
Freight free. HUH if you need to return it, the shipping is more than what you paid for the item.

Used to deal with it in photo equipment, Stuff would come in the backdoor avoiding the profit of the American distributor. Stuff that needed service. People would get angry when you explained the gray market stuff they bought was not covered by warranty.

[MorTech]

The Federal Mafia is forcing UPS to be a tax collector for the State. The UPS service charge is appropriate.