[manaboutown]

Beam me up, Scotty!

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Of course what you have to say is logical.

BUT WHY would ANY government want to hide any information about any visit from any thing or person from outside our known world? What would be the point? That isn't logical.

GG

you want an answer to your question Just go back and review some of the responses by posters. also consider the fact that if Roswell was a reality the advantage given the USA viv a vis other nations as to the advances in technologies, consider the concern by many citizens.

I locked my observation down tightly to conclude I did not know exactly what I was observing. I asked myself, why would they fly down and allow me such a good view? why did they not try and approach me? why did they not want me to photograph them? This was a bright sunny day with hardly a cloud in the sky and the sun hit that metal object and caught me eye. This vehicle could have simply moved on why did they drop down to just above this hill?

Perhaps it was there version of a joke on me> Boy wait til that guy tries to tell his friends what he just saw. they will believe he is a wing nut

When they saw me reach in for my camera before I could raise it to my eye in a Z motion starting at the bottom of the z going right then straight up and then a zag to the left they were gone.

there is not to my knowledge any vehicle that can move that quickly and quietly even today..unless of course the military is hiding it.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

What you saw was Mayor Lattimore dropping "urban renewal" on downtown Auburn

Lattimore

[l2ridehd]

There is a very good reason the government kept this a secret. Remember the time this happened. Also recall a radio broadcast of "War of the Worlds" and the absolute panic it caused when a few folks didn't realize it was a show. Just imagine the panic if they had not kept it a secret. Also remember the timing in history. This was just after our first nukes were dropped.

Do you suppose that this caused those folks from other planets to say "just what is going on down there? And how advanced are they? Lets check them out."

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by l2ridehd

There is a very good reason the government kept this a secret. Remember the time this happened. Also recall a radio broadcast of "War of the Worlds" and the absolute panic it caused when a few folks didn't realize it was a show. Just imagine the panic if they had not kept it a secret. Also remember the timing in history. This was just after our first nukes were dropped.

Do you suppose that this caused those folks from other planets to say "just what is going on down there? And how advanced are they? Lets check them out."

I think our planet has been subjected to stress about equal to finding an extraterrestrial in the last year. At least this country is more divided and angry than it has been in my lifetime. I don't accept that as a plausible reason.

Both you and Rubicon, one of you we know personally, are people I respect very much, and would leave our house keys with and trust in all ways.

I respect both of your judgement and fair evaluation.

I don't think the government would keep proof of aliens from us.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I think our planet has been subjected to stress about equal to finding an extraterrestrial in the last year. At least this country is more divided and angry than it has been in my lifetime. I don't accept that as a plausible reason.

Both you and Rubicon, one of you we know personally, are people I respect very much, and would leave our house keys with and trust in all ways.

I respect both of your judgement and fair evaluation.

I don't think the government would keep proof of aliens from us.

I don't know GG, I think the revelation of proof of extraterrestrial visitation would be so disruptive to our religious institutions and social order that it probably would need to be kept secret, at least until society could acclimate to the possibility. Hollywood and the media have been producing movies that do this for 70 years, both good and bad aliens. I'm at a point that I would not be surprised if an alien ship landed in my backyard. When enough people feel the same way, maybe we'll have a big revelation, maybe not.

There are about a zillion things about our ancient history that we don't know, and I'm pretty convinced that the timeline of man's activity on this planet is flat out wrong. Why does that Hawasi guy continue to insist the great pyramid was built as a tomb for Khufu over a 20 year span around 2470 BC? It fit the traditional timeline of man just starting to form permanent settlements and switching from hunter-gatherers to agrarian settlements around 4-5000 BC. However, discovery of megalithic sites such as Gobeckli Teppe dating to 12,000 BC should pretty much dispel the traditional timeline, but so far it hasn't.

The ancient alien theorists can spin a lot of evidence and mysteries to make their case, but none of it is anywhere near conclusive. My main problem with it is threefold:

1) You have to be able to travel much faster than light, and then find us at a time that we had no electromagnetic footprint to follow

2) With all their advanced knowledge and technology, which would included extensive knowledge of material sciences, why would they choose to build structures out of 50 ton slabs of stone? I doubt they built their spaceships out of stone.

3) We are asked to believe that an alien race that can navigate the stars at FTL speeds, avoid stars, planets, nebulae, black holes and God knows what else, would come to Earth and have dozens of UFO crashes, a safety record worse than US Air.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I don't know GG, I think the revelation of proof of extraterrestrial visitation would be so disruptive to our religious institutions and social order that it probably would need to be kept secret, at least until society could acclimate to the possibility. Hollywood and the media have been producing movies that do this for 70 years, both good and bad aliens. I'm at a point that I would not be surprised if an alien ship landed in my backyard. When enough people feel the same way, maybe we'll have a big revelation, maybe not.

There are about a zillion things about our ancient history that we don't know, and I'm pretty convinced that the timeline of man's activity on this planet is flat out wrong. Why does that Hawasi guy continue to insist the great pyramid was built as a tomb for Khufu over a 20 year span around 2470 BC? It fit the traditional timeline of man just starting to form permanent settlements and switching from hunter-gatherers to agrarian settlements around 4-5000 BC. However, discovery of megalithic sites such as Gobeckli Teppe dating to 12,000 BC should pretty much dispel the traditional timeline, but so far it hasn't.

The ancient alien theorists can spin a lot of evidence and mysteries to make their case, but none of it is anywhere near conclusive. My main problem with it is threefold:

1) You have to be able to travel much faster than light, and then find us at a time that we had no electromagnetic footprint to follow

2) With all their advanced knowledge and technology, which would included extensive knowledge of material sciences, why would they choose to build structures out of 50 ton slabs of stone? I doubt they built their spaceships out of stone.

3) We are asked to believe that an alien race that can navigate the stars at FTL speeds, avoid stars, planets, nebulae, black holes and God knows what else, would come to Earth and have dozens of UFO crashes, a safety record worse than US Air.

The testing of the atomic bomb and the like could have drawn their attention as another poster pointed out. And they may be studying us by taking samples rather often of our DNA and the like.

Who knows about the pyramids and the like. Better to just train some of the ancient Egyptians in this science and then leave. But why? They would probably have ten thousand year plans or more though if they are very advanced.

[Lottoguy]

This is why I post these subjects. To open the closed minds that are out there. And enjoy good conversation. Here is one to ponder. Why are the pyramids not mentioned anywhere in the Bible? Surely they knew about them in that period. Giza is about 270 miles to Jerusalem.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

This is why I post these subjects. To open the closed minds that are out there. And enjoy good conversation. Here is one to ponder. Why are the pyramids not mentioned anywhere in the Bible? Surely they knew about them in that period. Giza is about 270 miles to Jerusalem.

Ethnocentricity?

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Lottoguy

This is why I post these subjects. To open the closed minds that are out there. And enjoy good conversation. Here is one to ponder. Why are the pyramids not mentioned anywhere in the Bible? Surely they knew about them in that period. Giza is about 270 miles to Jerusalem.

The pyramids are kind of mentioned in The Bible but not with awe as the Jews were used as slaves to build them. Or, that seems to be the case.

Are the pyramids mentioned in the Bible? Did the enslaved Israelites build the pyramids?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

The pyramids are kind of mentioned in The Bible but not with awe as the Jews were used as slaves to build them.

Are the pyramids mentioned in the Bible? Did the enslaved Israelites build the pyramids?

Don't think so---the pyramids were there 1000 years before Joseph arrived---and maybe much, much longer

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Don't think so---the pyramids were there 1000 years before Joseph arrived---and maybe much, much longer

Did not Moses live much earlier than that and wanted the Pharoah to "Let my people go!"

Moses' Land: Who Built Egypt's Ancient Pyramids? Video - ABC News

Moses (1393-1273 BCE) - Jewish History

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Did not Moses live much earlier than that and wanted the Pharoah to "Let my people go!"

Traditional biblical time line would put Joseph arriving in Egypt about 1876 BC and Moses leaving about 1446 BC----the Bible places the Exodus at "480 years before the 4th year of Solomon" (1 Kings 6:1), which is generally agreed to be 966 BC. It also states that Joseph arrived 430 years before the exodus (Exodus 12:40) Great pyramid , according to traditional archaeology finished 2560 BC. Some other theorists claim about 10,500 BC

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Traditional biblical time line would put Joseph arriving in Egypt about 1876 BC and Moses leaving about 1446 BC----the Bible places the Exodus at "480 years before the 4th year of Solomon" (1 Kings 6:1), which is generally agreed to be 966 BC. It also states that Joseph arrived 430 years before the exodus (Exodus 12:40) Great pyramid , according to traditional archaeology finished 2560 BC. Some other theorists claim about 10,500 BC

Egyptian pyramids - Wikipedia

That's interesting.

History of Ancient Egypt Prof. Brier-Ancient & Medieval History

[Lottoguy]

This secret is slowly being released to the public via the "drip method". Remember NASA is a branch of the Department of Defense. They know more then anybody. Astronauts are the ones to keep an eye on especially Buzz Aldrin. In this short clip I believe he revealed a little to much and had to correct himself. And yes, there is a monolith on Phobos.

C-SPAN: Buzz Aldrin Reveals Existence of Monolith on Mars Moon - YouTube