[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by PFT Man

If your vision is obstructed by opposing traffic turning left, many times you are unable to see oncoming traffic.

Then don’t turn while the view is obstructed. Is there something difficult about that concept?

[villagetinker]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Then don’t turn while the view is obstructed. Is there something difficult about that concept?

The problem is you are in the car that sits low and has very limited visibility of the oncoming traffic due to the large SUV in the opposite left turn lane , then the large SUV behind you who can see gets impatient.......

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by daca55

Turning the left turn arrow to a solid red is a big improvement for safety. However I wonder how far cars will be backed up at that light when all the snowbirds are back. Last year they were backed up filling the whole turn lane and onto the travel lane of 466a. Someone mentioned new turn lanes being added there. Hopefully that will help. With all the developments on and around 466a the traffic is only going to get worse.

I would simply modify your post to add "at SOME intersections". Then I would agree 100% with you

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

The problem is you are in the car that sits low and has very limited visibility of the oncoming traffic due to the large SUV in the opposite left turn lane , then the large SUV behind you who can see gets impatient.......

Sure, the impatient driver behind is a problem but if you have to choose, I would make someone impatient before getting myself hit.

To me, the bigger problem are those that blow through the red light. I’ve had close calls with those a couple of times.

[huge-pigeons]

Based on the level of driving experience here inside the villages, All of those left turn lanes at the major intersections should have a red light instead of a blinking yellow. We have the worst drivers we have ever encountered in all of the places we have lived. Just like the other poster said, you can fit a car in the gaps left by each driver at a stop light so the line gets backed up a long way. You don’t need a gap unless you are stopping on a hill and the car in front of you rolls backward for a few feet while taking off. Then you have people that sit at a green light for 5 or more seconds so if you are the 6th car you miss the green light. People get mad when somebody sounds the horn at them after 5 seconds, I think if they haven’t moved after 2 seconds, blow the horn.
The majority of the people here don’t understand how to drive thru the roundabouts. Roundabouts navigated correctly should be fast and safe to go thru, far from it here. You have people coming to a complete stop coming into a roundabout when you can see that there are no cars around. This is plain stupid and dangerous. You can tell a block away from the roundabout if anybody is coming into the roundabout from the left. Me, I go 20 mph without breaking if no cars are coming. Then you have the same people driving in the inside lane and making the 1st right or in the outside lane wanting to go to the 3rd exit: both are wrong and will cause an accident. If somebody hits me for not driving correctly in the roundabout, they better have good insurance.
Then you have the pokers, the drivers that go 10mph slower than the speed limit in the fast (left) lane, and they won’t move over.
I’m tired of hearing from people that there is no hurry, take your time, we need more cops giving tickets, etc…
I would agree, we need cops to give tickets for anyone that can’t navigate the roundabout, for every car that doesn’t go the speed limit in the left lane that doesn’t pull over, and for every person who decides to stop when entering a roundabout when no cars are coming.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by huge-pigeons

Based on the level of driving experience here inside the villages, All of those left turn lanes at the major intersections should have a red light instead of a blinking yellow. We have the worst drivers we have ever encountered in all of the places we have lived. Just like the other poster said, you can fit a car in the gaps left by each driver at a stop light so the line gets backed up a long way. You don’t need a gap unless you are stopping on a hill and the car in front of you rolls backward for a few feet while taking off. Then you have people that sit at a green light for 5 or more seconds so if you are the 6th car you miss the green light. People get mad when somebody sounds the horn at them after 5 seconds, I think if they haven’t moved after 2 seconds, blow the horn.
The majority of the people here don’t understand how to drive thru the roundabouts. Roundabouts navigated correctly should be fast and safe to go thru, far from it here. You have people coming to a complete stop coming into a roundabout when you can see that there are no cars around. This is plain stupid and dangerous. You can tell a block away from the roundabout if anybody is coming into the roundabout from the left. Me, I go 20 mph without breaking if no cars are coming. Then you have the same people driving in the inside lane and making the 1st right or in the outside lane wanting to go to the 3rd exit: both are wrong and will cause an accident. If somebody hits me for not driving correctly in the roundabout, they better have good insurance.
Then you have the pokers, the drivers that go 10mph slower than the speed limit in the fast (left) lane, and they won’t move over.
I’m tired of hearing from people that there is no hurry, take your time, we need more cops giving tickets, etc…
I would agree, we need cops to give tickets for anyone that can’t navigate the roundabout, for every car that doesn’t go the speed limit in the left lane that doesn’t pull over, and for every person who decides to stop when entering a roundabout when no cars are coming.

Great post, with the exception that not EVERY intersection needs a red arrow----there are some with a clear unobstructed view of oncoming traffic for 1/2 mile or more---such as Morse and 44. The red arrow there is just a nuisance, and anyone who thinks it was a good idea should have their license revoked.

As far as the slow pokes in the left lane go, you would have steam coming out of your ears about 4-5 years ago. At that time, someone on TOTV posted that he ALWAYS drives 30 mph in the left lane of 466 where the posted limit is 45 because HE thinks that is fast enough. Another candidate to have his license revoked so he can stop being a menace on the roads.

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Great post, with the exception that not EVERY intersection needs a red arrow----there are some with a clear unobstructed view of oncoming traffic for 1/2 mile or more---such as Morse and 44. The red arrow there is just a nuisance, and anyone who thinks it was a good idea should have their license revoked.

As far as the slow pokes in the left lane go, you would have steam coming out of your ears about 4-5 years ago. At that time, someone on TOTV posted that he ALWAYS drives 30 mph in the left lane of 466 where the posted limit is 45 because HE thinks that is fast enough. Another candidate to have his license revoked so he can stop being a menace on the roads.

You’re still whining about this?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by photo1902

You’re still whining about this?

Apparently so. Do you have any good cheese to go with my whine???

[Stu from NYC]

Originally Posted by photo1902

You’re still whining about this?

Would you like to sit behind this pathetic excuse for a driver for miles and miles

[photo1902]

[QUOTE=Stu from NYC;2263743]Would you like to sit behind this pathetic excuse for a driver for miles and miles[/QUOTe

I have no idea what you’re talking about?

[BobnBev]

I cannot tell you how relieved I am because it became such a dangerous intersection.
A young man was killed on his scooter by someone making a left in front of him.

Is that the same young man that was killed on his MOTORCYCLE while going 100 mph?

[photo1902]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Maybe by Christmas they'll open the new turn lanes 466a to Buena Vista.

Nope. They’re open now.